Jewels7 Posted February 15, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 713 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 351 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2017 At Pentecost? With the appearance of the Holy Spirit of God? When Jesus washed their feet? During the last supper? I don't think I've ever seen this discussed before. I look forward to your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted February 15, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2017 I believe it was when they accepted Jesus as their Messiah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet of change Lou L Posted February 15, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 216 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 366 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/30/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) From Jesus view point some time prior to His prayer in John 17 were He says to the father Ive lost none but the son of perdition that the scriptures might be fulfilled. When they were born again might be a different Question. In that prayer He sees us being saved by faith thru there words. verses 20-21 but the reality of that is only realized when we are born again. I am pretty confident i was a lost sheep before that thank God we have a good Shepard. Sorry forgive me did not mean to split hairs on that question it is a good one i know what you meant. Went with first scrip. that pop into head. I know better. Truthfully i don't know. Edited February 15, 2017 by Prophet of change Lou L Apology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewels7 Posted February 15, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 713 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 351 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/10/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 14 hours ago, Prophet of change Lou L said: From Jesus view point some time prior to His prayer in John 17 were He says to the father Ive lost none but the son of perdition that the scriptures might be fulfilled. When they were born again might be a different Question. In that prayer He sees us being saved by faith thru there words. verses 20-21 but the reality of that is only realized when we are born again. I am pretty confident i was a lost sheep before that thank God we have a good Shepard. Sorry forgive me did not mean to split hairs on that question it is a good one i know what you meant. Went with first scrip. that pop into head. I know better. Truthfully i don't know. Thank you for your insight and honesty. It is an interesting question because we really don't know . 1 hour ago, Yowm said: They were saved the same time all mankind was saved that would be saved ...nearly 2000 years ago on a hill outside Jerusalem. That's sounding like universalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewels7 Posted February 15, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 713 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 351 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/10/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Thank you for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remnantrob Posted February 15, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,029 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 261 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/25/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/23/1982 Share Posted February 15, 2017 16 hours ago, Jewels7 said: At Pentecost? With the appearance of the Holy Spirit of God? When Jesus washed their feet? During the last supper? I don't think I've ever seen this discussed before. I look forward to your thoughts. I don't think it was during their first meeting with the Lord otherwise Judas would have made it. I would agree with Yowm that it happened at the cross of Calvary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted February 15, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 306 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,130 Content Per Day: 4.64 Reputation: 27,806 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2017 Quote They were saved the same time all mankind was saved that would be saved ...nearly 2000 years ago on a hill outside Jerusalem. Yown Beautiful reply, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted February 15, 2017 Group: Seeker Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 315 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/31/1959 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Some were even before Christ was born, they were waiting for Him, looking for, and some followed Him before. Some found him then followed Him at that time they were save. He was the savior before the Earth was created. What is better to say I follow and don't or follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted February 15, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 306 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,130 Content Per Day: 4.64 Reputation: 27,806 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2017 Thats right Ezekial,,,,,,,Sved thr6ough their FAith(by Grace) in the Promise of the Seed YET to come..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted February 15, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,824 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,753 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2017 20 hours ago, Jewels7 said: At Pentecost? With the appearance of the Holy Spirit of God? . Quote When Jesus washed their feet? During the last supper? These events took place before the Cross. We can not say that the disciples had the understanding that Jesus had to die first. When Jesus died the disciples agree that Jesus was not the Christ, because at that time they believe that the Christ will never die. At supper time, the disciples were not born from above, they were not one with the Heavenly Father in the name of Jesus. Before the Pentecost, and after the Cross and the ressuraction , the disciples believe that Jesus was raised from the dead , and he is the Christ. That's when they were born from above, and they were one with the Heavenly Father, on account of Jesus Christ, and that was before the Pentecost. Quote I don't think I've ever seen this discussed before. I look forward to your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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