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Faith, Works and Grace

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Works our an outward profession of the saving grace we've received. Someone who has truly been changed on the inside, will desire to do works, will take joy in seeing God's will done through them, will want to help other's understand and come to God. If you say you've been changed but you still live the exact same way and don't care for others and don't care for doing God's work and will, then you haven't really been changed, have you? And God can tell; man can't see inside the heart and mind like God can.

A tree that is living will bear fruit. It's not alive because it bears fruit; rather, the fact that it bears fruit, bears witness to the fact that it's alive.

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A tree that is living will bear fruit. It's not alive because it bears fruit; rather, the fact that it bears fruit, bears witness to the fact that it's alive.    BK1110

:amen:.....................You got it!!!!! MADE ALIVE in Christ,our Redeemer LIVES                         With love-in Christ,Kwik

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19 hours ago, notsolostsoul said:

If Grace has no basis in works, then why is Faith without Works dead? Then what is the point of doing work?

It is really quite simply. Genuine saving faith must necessarily produce good works. This is the Law of Cause and Effect in action. See Ephesians 2:8-10.

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Faith without works is dead because it reveals a heart that has not been transformed by God. When we have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit, our lives will demonstrate that new life. Our works will be characterized by obedience to God. Unseen faith will become seen by the production of the fruit of the Spirit in our lives (Galatians 5:22). Christians belong to Christ, the Good Shepherd. As His sheep we hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:26–30).

Faith without works is dead because faith results in a new creation, not a repetition of the same old patterns of sinful behavior. As Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians 5:17, “If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.”

Faith without works is dead because it comes from a heart that has not been regenerated by God. Empty professions of faith have no power to change lives. Those who pay lip service to faith but who do not possess the Spirit will hear Christ Himself say to them, “I never knew you. Depart from me, you evildoers” (Matthew 7:23

https://www.gotquestions.org/faith-without-works-dead.html

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 28 Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent. To believe in Him is to know Him and to know Him is to love Him and to love Him is to serve Him and to serve Him is to serve one another.    And His work is not a burden but a blessing.

11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves. 12 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father. 13 Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.

Hallelujah!     Its Him in us that does the work.

Edited by Prophet of change Lou L
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Not that this topic is at all new to the forums here, but I have to say, that there have really been some quality answers, good job people!

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On 2/15/2017 at 7:23 PM, notsolostsoul said:

If Grace has no basis in works, then why is Faith without Works dead? Then what is the point of doing work?

the works that Bible talks about is basically life style and actions that show you are a child of God-----the point of doing works is that when The Holy Spirit resides in your heart- works are the way you live-- you care about other people so you live in a manner that benefits them--- if a person is trying to do "works" to get God to be indebted to them , or for praise from others, the works are dead and do no good to the person doing them.

 

Grace comes first--- then works but they are works you want to do, not works you have to do~~ ultimately the point of doing "works" is because you know it would please the Lord-- and you want to please the Lord because you know how much it cost him to buy you back from death and hell

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On 2/15/2017 at 7:23 PM, notsolostsoul said:

If Grace has no basis in works, then why is Faith without Works dead? Then what is the point of doing work?

Romans 10:17

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

We'll respond to God's Word (Jesus Christ)  whether its believing or not. Responding according to Him, requires faith, and Holy Spirit enters into us if faith is found. Works, is lead by Jesus Christ through Holy Spirit in response to our faith. 

Everything is done by Him and will be forever and ever.... Amen. Nothing without faith in Him will remain... forever and ever.

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