JTC Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,795 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 1,502 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/25/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1952 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Holding a grudge means not forgiving and Jesus commanded us to forgive. I never had a problem with holding grudges but I've known people who do. I knew one woman who seemed to pride herself on how good she could hold a grudge. I guess she saw it as a way to emotionally protect herself from others who hurt her. Grudges are related to not forgiving and judging. All sins and various people have varying degrees of trouble with these sins. While I never had a problem with grudges, and not even forgiving, in my older age I'm finding it hard to forgive people who don't want to be forgiven by me. Lately a lot of people I know are self righteous and want to hold grudges against me. It's a shame really because I never had problems with this group of sins. Since these are all sins they're things we have to overcome. We should seek to make it harder for others to deal with them. That's how we're supposed to behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constian Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) On 2/16/2017 at 3:06 PM, missmuffet said: Misunderstanding forgiveness often keeps us in bondage to grudges. We think that to forgive is to excuse sin or pretend the offense did not matter. Neither is true. Forgiveness is not about the other person. Forgiveness is God’s gift to us to release us from the control of someone who has hurt us. What is quoted is so true. Yes, I am a grudge holder and it is a terrible burden. It's rooted in anger IMO. And of course, more prevalent in those of us who tend to take everything personally. I find this an especially hard thing to deal with at work. You are immersed daily, for hours, in a secular world where it is cutthroat. Just one of the many things that I give to God regularly - but not enough, so glad to see this post. Edited February 18, 2017 by Constian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, Constian said: What is quoted is so true. Yes, I am a grudge holder and it is a terrible burden. It's rooted in anger IMO. And of course, more prevalent in those of us who tend to take everything personally. I find this an especially hard thing to deal with at work. You are immersed daily, for hours, in a secular world where it is cutthroat. Just one of the many things that I give to God regularly - but not enough, so glad to see this post. Pride does come into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constian Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2017 Yes, definitely. I was raised by a very prideful father - another burden, lol. Sigh. Thank goodness God is patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Constian said: Yes, definitely. I was raised by a very prideful father - another burden, lol. Sigh. Thank goodness God is patient. But you do not have to be what your father was. Maybe a good lesson not to be like your father was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constian Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2017 Oh, I totally agree. But as with most sin, easier said than done. "Sins of the father" and all that. I think we all struggle with traits we were taught as children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted February 18, 2017 13 hours ago, Heavenunlimited said: And who say the bible anger is of, the antichrist. So clearly a flesh problem that has to be fixated on the stick. Anger happens to all of us. Anger has nothing to do with the Antichrist. It is however our nature. We are not to stay angry, and we are not to let the sun go down on our anger. Letting go of it and letting God take the anger from us is what we need to do. Only through a relationship with God through Jesus Christ are we able to do this. Blessings, RustyAngeL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisFirst Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3,491 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 2,582 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/25/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2017 Just now, Yowm said: The last grudge I held ended up holding me I can relate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavenunlimited Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 606 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 18, 2017 4 hours ago, RustyAngeL said: Anger happens to all of us. Anger has nothing to do with the Antichrist. It is however our nature. We are not to stay angry, and we are not to let the sun go down on our anger. Letting go of it and letting God take the anger from us is what we need to do. Only through a relationship with God through Jesus Christ are we able to do this. Blessings, RustyAngeL Paul say that anger is a fruit of the antichrist.. When mentioning the fruits.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTC Posted February 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,795 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 1,502 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/25/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1952 Share Posted February 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Constian said: Yes, definitely. I was raised by a very prideful father - another burden, lol. Sigh. Thank goodness God is patient. You don't have to be like your father. How? By bearing in mind that you don't want to be like him. A wise man told me that when I was 20 and it worked. My father had 4 brothers and they all had a terrible personality trait. They were judgemental. You might think they did nothing wrong but they all did plenty of things wrong. #1 in my opinion was to raise us with their sins. They messed us up and at 20 I was speaking to a wise older man. I told him I didn't want to be like my father and I used to worry about. He told me what I told you. It's not easy but being a Christian is not easy. This is the same thing. My father was critical and judgmental and yet he often did the same things. 40 yrs ago I decided I didn't want to be like him and I'm not. I have my faults for sure but they aren't the same ones him and his brothers taught us. They had another dumb saying. "Do what I say not what I do". Any smart parent knows children learn from example. God set it up this way. If the father obeys Jesus and patterns himself after the Lord then his son will pattern himself after his earthly father who is doing what Jesus used to do. This is how humans are. The younger you are when you realize what you want your personality to be like the better. But even old dogs can learn new tricks it's just harder. We can all teach ourselves not to hold grudges. Be honest with yourself, that's step 1. Once you admit to yourself that grudges is a problem for you that's the beginning of being rid of them. It all starts with self awareness. It can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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