Guest shiloh357 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, JTC said: You may not want the government telling you what you can't watch but that may be the only way out of this mess. And remember this mess has criminal implications. To make porn causes more crime than you may know. It has to be stopped. And it all starts by people talking about. That's why I made this thread. It's like trying to help an addict. You can't help him if you won't say the words, addiction Heroin Cocaine etc. And if we get sexual morality back in into our society we won't have such an overwhelming problem with abortions and orphans. It's going to take change on both legal and spiritual fronts. Pornography is criminal by nature. And it is not protected under the constitution. There is a lot of stuff like this and child porn and prostitution that need to purged from our culture. And it is going to also take a return to biblical values in this nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 904 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,642 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,830 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2017 In some ways, there have been worse times in the past than today. In Corinth during the time Paul established a Church there, feminists often protested topless in the streets. In Judaism, women were divorced (put away) for the chintziest of reasons (unlike today): with only the clothes on their backs. Etc. But in some very serious ways, we live in a worse time with regard to lust in all the access we have to it in the privacy of our own homes on TV, computer, or devices... Everything is on the verge or the over exaggerated (skimpy means all but the plumbing showing today, when before it was a little bit of thigh or midriff or cleavage)... And all that the children are exposed to today... Oy, what we all are going to be held accountable for... for commission or omission (tolerating or burying our heads in the sand)... But again... God is not trying to change the world but to save as many as will be saved through it. Ours is but to police ourselves in this regard (if only for our own sakes and the sakes of our spouses)... Be blessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTC Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,795 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 1,502 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/25/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1952 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 JohnD, thank you for being open and honest. Maybe nothing can be done about this problem but so long as I'm alive I have to try. If I don't then I don't know why God keeps me alive. I actually consider this problem to stem from my generation. It was my age bracket that thought free sex was a great idea. But we were young, young and dumb. I remember when the VCR was invented and suddenly I could rent porno films. Since I was single I thought it was a good thing. It wasn't and it does seem like there's no hope but we can't accept that. As Christians we have to try and make there be hope. Up until 5 yrs ago I was driving a Taxi and on Sat nights I used to get to speak to young people. They need our help. They need to hear there is hope. They are very intelligent, a lot smarter than I was at their age. I can't work anymore so I can't speak to them anymore. But I can still reach people via the Internet which is what I'm doing. People have to made to think about this. Things don't have to be as bad as they are. I don't expect a perfect world but I think things can get better than they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 53 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,412 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,508 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: Nobody is forced to watch porn or to access it via the internet, those are choices they make. I am an adult and I do not need the government to make choices for me, and as a Libertarian I am opposed to any overreach by the government. Who is going to get to decide what is acceptable for you or for me? If children are accessing it via the web then it is a failure of the parents to protect their children. I have no children in my household anymore but I still have an excellent filter on my computer that allows me, the individual, to set up what I want blocked and what I do not want blocked. While i do not desire to watch porn, if an adult wishes to that is their right and it is not my place or your place to tell them they cannot. Your reply is typical of the secular world and the acceptance of moral decadence as the new norm. But a believer does not accept this and would heed the warnings of scripture to flee sexual immortality and preach it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, warrior12 said: Your reply is typical of the secular world and the acceptance of moral decadence as the new norm. But a believer does not accept this and would heed the warnings of scripture to flee sexual immortality and preach it. I am not sure what I have accepted, but whatever makes you happy. If you need the government to ban something so you will not partake of it, then you are not fleeing from it. I do not need the government to keep me from porn, I choose to flee from it all on my own accord. And every single adult should be afforded the same choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2017 Sexual immorality is not going to change while Satan is roaming our world and sin is rampant. Not on the earth as we know it now. We know in our own hearts where we stand as far as values and morals are concerned. We know what the Bible has to say about morals and values. It is a choice between each and every individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 185 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,224 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,647 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: As much as I detest porn, I do not want this government or any other deciding what is acceptable or not for me to view/read. This leads to a very bad place very quickly. We had some censorship in the 50s and prior, and it did not lead to a bad place. We have more censorship now than we did then, but it is by the political leftist media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: As much as I detest porn, I do not want this government or any other deciding what is acceptable or not for me to view/read. This leads to a very bad place very quickly. My position as a born again Christian and my heart will tell me where I stand in the world of porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Willa said: We had some censorship in the 50s and prior, and it did not lead to a bad place. We have more censorship now than we did then, but it is by the political leftist media. That depends on your point of view. And if you think that today it is all from the "leftist" then we have nothing left to talk about. This should not be a political issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted February 20, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 minute ago, missmuffet said: My position as a born again Christian and my heart will tell me where I stand in the world of porn. Which is why we do not need the government to save us from ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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