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About abortion, Pro-Life and Pro-Choice

A good friend of mine, who is not a Christian, but a thoughtful man, actually like a brother, wrote me and disagreed.  He is a man who does care for others, we just start from a different place.  He did mention in his note to me that if Universal Contraception was available it would take care of a good deal of the problem.  His name is Marco and if anyone met him would like him for his passion and depth of insight into many of the problems that we are dealing with at this time.  We both know and understand that the women who get abortions go through a horrendous process and many never get over it.  Hence a central problem if not the main one for the abortions issue.  I am not pointing fingers at anyone, for I have friends and family who have procured abortions….life is messy and chaotic. 

Marco,

"I think there is universal access to contraception.  I believe that is another question.  However, when the sexual act is reduced to 'play' without regard for consequences is a problem.  Marco, one reason you are interested in the rights of animals is that they are not objects to you, nor are they commodities, they are real living creatures.  I don't always agree with everything you say about animal rights, yet people need to stop looking upon animals as things' and in that I applaud you.

The same goes for the 'fetus'.  Funny, when a woman wants to have an abortion, it is a fetus.  When she wants to keep it, it is a child developing.  We use words to protect us from understanding the evil in what we are doing.  Cruelty to animals for instance.  We can call it sport, or scientific experimentation etc.  That way we don't have to face the suffering we cause other animals.  We label them.  We also label the life in the womb as a 'fetus' or 'mere tissue''.   Or the 'Woman's right to choose ', mind-numbing repetitions to cover over the conscience.  I can't believe that during the democratic convention a woman got up and bragged about getting an abortion, how it helped her in her career.....so the life in her womb was a commodity, mere tissue, if she wanted the child, I doubt she would think in those terms.  Abortion is murder, which is legal, just as mercy killing in this country will soon be.  When something becomes a law, it matures, grows and can get out of control.  Like in the Netherlands… doctors are starting to choose on their own who is to live or not.  That was not the intention of 'mercy killing', yet when doctors overstep they are not persecuted.  Roe and Wade was introduced with the intent of allowing abortions for women in danger......now it is a right for all woman to get an abortion for any reason. 

However, the issue goes beyond my thoughts on the issue, or yours.  It is here to stay; like I said… for it to lessen significantly or to even go away, cultures would have to change in ways that are impossible.  So all anyone can do who is pro-life is to stay calm, loving and compassionate.  Life is very, very, very, messy.  Becoming violent, insulting and physically aggressive only makes things worse for everyone.

My post was not directed at people who are pro-choice but towards those who understand the sacredness of life in the womb so that they will not despair, or get angry or violent.  I do not underestimate our potential for violence, in  me, you, or the gentle old lady who lives in her apartment."

 

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One young girl who had an abortion came to Christ because of it.  She had such guilt that even after she became a Christian she struggled with the guilt.  I reminded her of Paul who considered himself the chief of sinners because he had gone around persecuting Christians, and even helped in stoning Stephen to death.  

But we all are guilty of the sin for which Christ died.   God demonstrates His love, in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us..

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Imagine how much stress would be alleviated in the individual if they stopped thinking they had a right to put their preferences into someone elses life.

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The detractors of God's Word are great wordsmiths weaving euphemisms enchanting and luring people into their godless actions such as abortions. Their consciences are not bound to truth and freely deceive and get their way through the crafty use of words.

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"About abortion, Pro-Life and Pro-Choice"

If we want to be totally honest here are terms that should be used:

PRO-LIFE SHOULD BE ANTI-ABORTION

PRO-CHOICE SHOULD BE PRO-MURDER

"Choice" has a nice deceptive ring to it,  that is why the term has become "Pro-Choice".

In any event abortion is murder.

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1 hour ago, Ezra said:

"About abortion, Pro-Life and Pro-Choice"

If we want to be totally honest here are terms that should be used:

PRO-LIFE SHOULD BE ANTI-ABORTION

PRO-CHOICE SHOULD BE PRO-MURDER

"Choice" has a nice deceptive ring to it,  that is why the term has become "Pro-Choice".

In any event abortion is murder.

As well,

"TERMINATE THE PREGNANCY" SHOULD BE "CUT SHORT THE BABIES LIFE".

(in contrast to allowing the baby to be born, thus terminating the pregnancy).

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12 hours ago, Willa said:

One young girl who had an abortion came to Christ because of it.  She had such guilt that even after she became a Christian she struggled with the guilt.  I reminded her of Paul who considered himself the chief of sinners because he had gone around persecuting Christians, and even helped in stoning Stephen to death.  

But we all are guilty of the sin for which Christ died.   God demonstrates His love, in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us..

 

I agree, there is always hope.

 

Peace
mark

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12 hours ago, Yowm said:

The detractors of God's Word are great wordsmiths weaving euphemisms enchanting and luring people into their godless actions such as abortions. Their consciences are not bound to truth and freely deceive and get their way through the crafty use of words.

 

Eventually, they kill their conscience.  I am talking about those who do them.  However, I have met quite a few who woke up and now work for pro-life.

 

Peace
mark

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10 hours ago, Ezra said:

"About abortion, Pro-Life and Pro-Choice"

If we want to be totally honest here are terms that should be used:

PRO-LIFE SHOULD BE ANTI-ABORTION

PRO-CHOICE SHOULD BE PRO-MURDER

"Choice" has a nice deceptive ring to it,  that is why the term has become "Pro-Choice".

In any event abortion is murder.

 

Yes, call it murder, just legal.   Sad state of affairs.

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1 hour ago, markdohle said:

Eventually, they kill their conscience.  I am talking about those who do them.  However, I have met quite a few who woke up and now work for pro-life.

 

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mark

Yes, Dr. Bernard Nathanson came to mind, performed over 5000 abortions and came up with the concept 'abortion clinic' before coming over to the 'other side'.

http://www.ignitumtoday.com/2015/01/27/meet-dr-bernard-nathanson-famous-ex-abortionist/

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