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What does mean to rely on the LORD'S knowledge and not our own?


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feel free to use situational examples if you want!

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Human knowledge, apart from God, is flawed. The Bible also refers to it as worthless because it isn’t tempered by love (1 Corinthians 13:2). The knowledge man possesses tends to make one proud. “Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up” (1 Corinthians 8:1). Therefore, the pursuit of knowledge for its own sake, without seeking God, is foolishness. “Then I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom . . . but I learned that this, too, is a chasing after the wind. For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief” (Ecclesiastes 1:17-18). Worldly knowledge is a false knowledge which is opposed to the truth, and Paul urges us to “Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge, which some have professed and in so doing have wandered from the faith” (1 Timothy 6:20-21). Human knowledge is opposed to God’s knowledge and therefore is no knowledge at all; rather, it is foolishness.

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To me it means to put on the mind of Christ and view life from God's perspective.  We see people as either redeemed or not redeemed.  We see the advice in Scriptures to be God's guidance to a better life both here and in eternity.  We conform our values to Christ's and seek riches  that count most in heaven, not riches that the world considers to be the most valued.  So we may not seek after power, wealth and fame.  But we may be rich in contentment and peace, love and joy.  

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We should, as humans rely on the LORD's knowledge because ......

[1]  Because while we THINK we know everything - we woefully don't.  Even the best and brightest of us, like Einstein, had critical errors in their knowledge.  As a former science teacher, I can tell you that science is always self-correcting.  At least good science does.  The human race at one time was thoroughly convinced of the following:

  • the life "spontaneously generated"
  • that the universe was fixed
  • that you could cure someone by bleeding them out

 

[2]  And it's not just science that can boast of faulty "knowledge".  The church is no different.  From Peter's judaizing to the Puritan's dunking women under the water for prolonged periods of time to prove their witchcraft (all it did was kill them) to countless people today clinging to one singular verse in the Bible (usually quoting in incorrectly) and making an entire doctrine of it that is at best dead wrong and at worst heresy - even Christians cannot rely solely on their own knowledge.

 

[3] The Bible says that "knowledge puffs up".  There are people on Christian message boards all over the world who will spends HOURS trying to prove someone wrong, but will not walk across street to tell a lost neighbor about Jesus Christ.

 

[4] But the Bible also says that "the fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom" and that "the fool hates knowledge".  Our knowledge has to stem from God's knowledge.  We will never know everything that he knows, but we can take what he does allow us to know and to learn it perfectly and to treat it as a great treasure.  We have to allow it to lead and guide us - understanding that it came from Almighty God and not our own limited logic.  Even the things outside of his word that we learn - these things must be compared to the wisdom and knowledge of God and his truth or we may embrace a knowledge that is a lie.  And to live that out can be a fatal thing.

 

[5]  Read the book of Judges.  Four times it says that everyone was doing what was right in his own eyes - not God's eyes.  There are some pretty good examples in Judges of how leaning own your own knowledge will lead you to crazy town. 

 

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This meaning exactly what it is written in Proverbs:

 

·        “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.” (Proverbs 3.5-8).

 

After all:

 

·        “And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the LORD, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.” (Job 28.28).

·        “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.” (Provebs 9.10).

·        “There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.”  (Proverbs 14.12).

·        “There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” (Proverbs 16.25).

·        “The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.” (Proverbs 16.1)

·        “Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.” (Romans 8.26).

 

May Jesus be our knowledge and wisdom (Colossians 2.3).

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On 2/21/2017 at 1:40 PM, Praise2God4ever said:

feel free to use situational examples if you want!

People make mistakes every day.

YHWH (GOD) never makes a mistake.

People don't know very much.

YHWH (GOD) knows everything there is to know - way beyond what all people together can even begin to imagine.

So,  as Y'SHUA MESSIAH SAVIOR lived,  and told HIS disciples to live, 

listen to the FATHER all the time,  staying in prayer,  and DO what HE says to do.  (instead of what men say, or even one's own heart or mind).  i.e. in other words , also,  do not judge by what can be seen and heard physically, but judge rightouesly - whatever the FATHER determines,  DO as HE says.

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1 hour ago, simplejeff said:

People make mistakes every day.

YHWH (GOD) never makes a mistake.

People don't know very much.

YHWH (GOD) knows everything there is to know - way beyond what all people together can even begin to imagine.

So,  as Y'SHUA MESSIAH SAVIOR lived,  and told HIS disciples to live, 

listen to the FATHER all the time,  staying in prayer,  and DO what HE says to do.  (instead of what men say, or even one's own heart or mind).  i.e. in other words , also,  do not judge by what can be seen and heard physically, but judge rightouesly - whatever the FATHER determines,  DO as HE says.

Amen!

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Romans 12:1-2 ESV
"I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect."

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Our own knowledge is derived from a tree that was in the garden of Eden. There was a choice involved and that choice is the one your question addresses. This choice was not ours to make we were bound to Adams choice until Jesus came and opened up the way to the tree of Life which proverbs 3-18 says is the wisdom of God. Jesus in the sermon on the mount addresses these two trees.                                                                                                                              Matt 7     17 So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will know them by their fruits.

Trees are one of the greatest parables in the bible It begins with trees and ends with trees. Parables are natural things that hold spiritual truths. Marks gospel ch. 4 tells us Jesus didn't teach them any thing but by parables. God in His great knowledge hid His great wisdom in the very things we see every day creation is screaming at us the truth of Jesus Christ. We are trees of righteousness the planting of the Lord that He might be glorified let us bare the fruit of His Spirit. Galatians ch.3    The Cross the tree of life and the wisdom of GOD!

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