Revelation Man Posted March 8, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,066 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 551 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 2/24/2017 at 0:19 PM, Ezra said: Recently many have been trying to connect the Rapture with Jewish feasts, and also engage in date-setting (something favored by false prophets). Neither of these movements are solidly based on what is revealed in the New Testament, and are therefore pure speculation. The Rapture has always been IMMINENT -- could occur at any time unexpectedly and unannounced. The Second Coming of Christ is entirely different, and all the inhabitants of the earth will know when this occurs, and will mourn. Here is a link to an article which provides more reasons why the Rapture should not be connected with Jewish feasts. http://www.wayoflife.org/reports/the-rapture-and-jewish-feasts.php The Rapture has not always been imminent because Israel had to be reborn as a Nation first (Ezekiel prophecy) and the Gospel had to be preached unto the ends of the world first. As per the Feasts its only a pattern of Gods. We are in Pentecost now. When the Trumpet blows the Church will leave, and Israel will be Atoned, then they will tabernacle or Dwell with Jesus/God when he sets up his earthly Kingdom. That's the three fall feasts Trumpets....Atonement....Tabernacle. 1. Jesus is our Passover 2. Unleavened Bread (Jesus without sin) 3. First-fruits (First raised of the Dead) 4. Pentecost. The three Fall Feasts. I am a pre-tribber. I just think God leaves us these patterns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted March 8, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Revelation Man said: The Rapture has not always been imminent because Israel had to be reborn as a Nation first (Ezekiel prophecy) and the Gospel had to be preached unto the ends of the world first. You are confusing the Rapture with the Second Coming of Christ. A common enough mistake, but something to sort out for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted March 8, 2017 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 3/7/2017 at 3:10 AM, n2thelight said: Curioisity question All children will go in the rapture correct? My question will anymore children be born while you all are in Heaven during the trib? Any answers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted March 8, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2017 Most likely Example: [Matthew 24:19-21] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keras Posted March 8, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,686 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 301 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/31/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/07/1941 Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 3/7/2017 at 9:10 PM, n2thelight said: Curioisity question All children will go in the rapture correct? My question will anymore children be born while you all are in Heaven during the trib? The question is invalid, because no living human will go to heaven, Jesus said so: John 3:13, John 8:21-23, John 17:15, Rev 5:10 But it will be like heaven as we live in the holy Land, with God's blessings showered upon us. Isaiah 30:18, Psalm 37:29, Romans 9: 24-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted March 8, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,066 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 551 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2017 21 hours ago, Ezra said: You are confusing the Rapture with the Second Coming of Christ. A common enough mistake, but something to sort out for yourself. No I am not. The Rapture happens then we go to Heaven to marry Jesus while there is a Seven Year Period on earth that is Jacobs Troubles and Gods Wrath, then we return with Jesus at the Seventh Vial. Matthew 24:32-44 is the Rapture. Matthew 24:16-26 is the Troubles/Wrath. Matthew 24:27-31 is the Second Coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted March 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 On 3/7/2017 at 6:08 AM, inchrist said: This is why I detest dispensationalism to its core... So you quote Scripture extensively but misapply it. You've obviously bought into the anti-dispensationalist propaganda (with is also fake news). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted March 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Revelation Man said: Matthew 24:32-44 is the Rapture. Matthew 24:16-26 is the Troubles/Wrath. Matthew 24:27-31 is the Second Coming. See, here's the thing. You know that the Rapture is distinct from the Second Coming, yet you quote Matthew 24 WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RAPTURE. It is all about Jersusalem, Judea, the Jews, Israel, the Abomination of Desolation, the Great Tribulation, and the Second Coming of Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted March 9, 2017 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2017 8 hours ago, Keras said: The question is invalid, because no living human will go to heaven, Jesus said so: John 3:13, John 8:21-23, John 17:15, Rev 5:10 But it will be like heaven as we live in the holy Land, with God's blessings showered upon us. Isaiah 30:18, Psalm 37:29, Romans 9: 24-26 Scripture tells me that we return to the Father,different topic.I posed the question 4 those who believe in the rapture . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keras Posted March 9, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,686 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 301 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/31/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/07/1941 Share Posted March 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, n2thelight said: Scripture tells me that we return to the Father,different topic.I posed the question 4 those who believe in the rapture . Right: after those in Christ die. Our souls are kept in heaven, but only those killed for their faith, participate in the first resurrection. Rev 20:4, the rest of the dead await the GWT Judgement= some to the lake of fire, those whose names are in the Book of Life, to eternal life. 7 hours ago, Revelation Man said: 20 hours ago, Ezra said: No I am not. The Rapture happens then we go to Heaven to marry Jesus while there is a Seven Year Period on earth tat is Jacobs Troubles and Gods Wrath, then we return with Jesus at the Seventh Vial. But as we see; those who are locked onto the rapture theory, will only realize how wrong they were when disaster strikes and they remain on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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