iamlamad Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) On 3/15/2017 at 11:02 AM, Daniel 11:36 said: "As I have already said there are TWO beasts. Revelation 13 is largely Babylon, not the person directly. This is getting off topic anyway" There are two beasts incorporated .... and they are both fallen angels One is Abaddon/Apollyon .... the other is the false prophet It is Satan who offers this combination for deception to the world Both will be very different and not human However, there will be human components involved The first beast will enter the human little horn of Daniel's visions regarding the time of the end [Daniel 7; 8; 11:36-45; 12:4] [2 Thessalonians 2:3-12] The second will control the two religious clerics of the Sunni and Shiite divides of the Muslims Do you have a scripture for this last statement? Scripture tells us the second beast will cause the image to be created, and then cause all who will not worship it to be beheaded. Scripture tells us he will perform the false miracles that will deceive the entire world. Edited March 18, 2017 by iamlamad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 11:21 AM, Daniel 11:36 said: Abaddon/Apollyon is the "antichrist It is Satan who holds the key to the abyss [Revelation 9:1; 13:4] Here is Abaddon in the human little horn [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-8; 16:1-15; 17:8-18; 19:19-21] The human little horn is the subject of [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-25; 11:36-45; 12:7] Abaddon will be destroyed in the Lord's lake of fire at the end of the battle of Armageddon Satan will then be sent to the abyss for 1000 years [Revelation 20:1-3] There is a divide between the end of the 69 week and Jesus Christ's cutting off and the beginning of the 70th week decreed which is still pending .... the coming tribulation period Here it is [Daniel 11:21-35 ..... Daniel 11:36-45; 12:7] Stick to the Bible for the Lord's truth Sorry, but it will be TWO MEN, one the Beast of Rev. 13 and the other the false prophet - that will be cast into the lake of Fire. Of course the spirits possessing them will leave their bodies since their job will have been finished. But very soon after they will be imprisoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 10:47 AM, TheMatrixHasU71 said: No, Abaddon/Apollyon is the angel with the key to the bottomless pit. Something I learned recently too. Anyone ever keep up with the stuff regarding the CERN particle accelerator and all the havoc that it could possibly cause, rather like wearing holes in an old carpet? CERN, and this CANT be coincidence, is actually built in a town that has ruins of an ancient temple to Apollyon It does not say this: it is FAR more likely it is an angel from God that unlocks the bottomless pit, and Abaddon comes out at that time. He was locked up with all the stinging beasties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 7:16 AM, Daniel 11:36 said: Revelation 13:1-4 Satan is the master inventor of his "antichrist" who sits on the top and administers his flawed idea The beast is the "antichrist" operating in the little horn of Daniel's visions of the time of the end of this present age Once concluded, the beast, little horn, and false prophet will be sent to the Lord's lake of fire [Revelation 19:19-21] .... and Satan will be sent to the abyss during the Lord's millennial kingdom [Revelation 20:1-3] Satan is not the "antichrist" but one who is determined to usurp the Lord, even if he is sent to the earth and barred from heaven [Revelation 12:12] Once his plan is defeated he will be sequestered in the abyss for 1000 years You need to understand this truth n2thelight .... otherwise your idea will lead you to your current rendering of the prophetic scriptures You told him well, but my guess is, he will not get it and will continue writing nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 3/15/2017 at 7:32 PM, heretoeternity said: Matthew 24 v 29-31 and Mark 13 v 27 says "AFTER the tribulation He will gather His elect from the earth"...does not sound like pre trib.. People have been trying to prove this gathering is the rapture for hundreds of years. No one has been successful. It is not the church that is gathered here. Did you look and see where they are gathered from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 "Do you have a scripture for this last statement? Scripture tells us the second beast will cause the image to be created, and then cause all who will not worship it to be beheaded. Scripture tells us he will perform the false miracles that will deceive the entire world. Two horns .... like the "one" horn ... the false prophet will incorporate two horns [two men] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 3/15/2017 at 3:16 PM, HAZARD said: The Rapture of the Church will occur before the Tribulation. The purpose of the rapture is to resurrect the just from the dead and take all the saints out of the world before the tribulation comes, in order that they may have fulfilled in them the purpose for which God has saved them. Jesus told the disciples that some would escape the terrible things that were to transpire on the Earth in the last days. He said, “Pray that you may be accounted worth to escape all these things of, Matt. 24, 25; Luke 21:1-19, 25-28, that shall come to pass, and stand before the Son of man,” Luke 21:34-36. These two passages in Luke 21:34-36 and John 14:1-3, are the only ones in the Gospels that are clear concerning the Rapture. Jesus did not reveal this, it was revealed by Paul many years later in 1 Cor. 15:51. The disciples did not have the slightest idea as to how they were to escape, unless they thought that Christ would deliver them from these things through His power. The how was not revealed or even mentioned before Paul explained how they were to escape. Well written, Hazard! How amazing God has told us to pray "that we can be accounted worthy to escape all these things" yet so many want to BE HERE for all these things that are coming. They are setting their OWN appointment with God's wrath. All I can say is, good luck to those that wish to stay behind. We already know you will be overcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted March 20, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 On 18/03/2017 at 2:49 PM, iamlamad said: It does not say this: it is FAR more likely it is an angel from God that unlocks the bottomless pit, and Abaddon comes out at that time. He was locked up with all the stinging beasties. One thing that should have occurred to me before and it didn't till I read about it just the other day. The antichrist in 2 Thess 2:7-8 is called the Wicked, yes, we know that but the translation of that word, the Lawless One, is a title that is typically given to the Gentiles. Anyone not under God's Mosaic Law. So that is another possible pointer to the a/c being a Gentile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted March 20, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 20, 2017 It is apparent that the "antichrist" will be a Muslim [Micah 5:5-6] .... from the Middle East Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted March 21, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 23 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said: It is apparent that the "antichrist" will be a Muslim [Micah 5:5-6] .... from the Middle East Yup. Very likely. Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty [and] two months. Would a Jew allow this? Even a Jewish a/c? Not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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