Ezra Posted March 7, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.36 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2017 14 hours ago, tinyprayers said: I believe if you check you'll find the same reason behind McCarthyism in its day. Only then it was fear the Red's. The Commies, the Pinkos. And Adolph had declared war on the whole world too And you don't believe that the Communists were trying to undermine the government and subvert America? What you see to day in all the universities and in society is a result of the assault of Communism on America. Saul Alinsky's influence has motivated Obama, Hillary, and the whole Left-liberal "progressivism". As to Jihad, it is a fact of life in the western world. The only problem is that the politicians and leaders refuse to accept this fact, and have gone into denial. Sweden is one of the best examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewels7 Posted March 8, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 713 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 351 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 3/6/2017 at 8:39 PM, tinyprayers said: I believe if you check you'll find the same reason behind McCarthyism in its day. Only then it was fear the Red's. The Commies, the Pinkos. And Adolph had declared war on the whole world too It's that old adage all over again isn't it? Those that don't learn from their history are condemned to repeat it. There was a Hollywood blacklist during the McCarthy era. Actors didn't work if their names were on it because they were thought to side with the communists. It was like the witch hunts of old. Point, accuse, arrest, try, kill. Only in the case of the Hollywood black list the death came when the actor couldn't get work. And their name was smeared with the dread "C" word before it. After 9-11-2001 people were in a panic over the M word. One woman to her eternal shame made the news turning in three suspect terrorists she overheard in a diner laughing about the 9-11 assaults. The men she turned in were medical school students. She lied and profiled them because they appeared Arab to her. Long horribly sad story short, she reported suspicious behavior that only transpired in her warped imagination. And the three men lost their place in the medical college they were traveling to at the time they stopped at that diner. When that call came from homeland security encouraging reporting of suspect behavior, I remember when I was told about that call what I was thinking. Imagine the reach of such an anonymous reporting system. What a beautiful way for a warped person like that woman in the diner to destroy someone's life. "TERRORIST!" The scarlet T that when applied makes one guilty until they can prove they're innocent of the charge. Call authorities! Alert to the dread T word in your area. Ruin a life out of spite. Or just because while walking past their house one day you happened to look in the window and saw the lady of the house donning a Niqāb. When before this person walking by had never seen the lady of the house attired in such a way. A secret Muslim? Fear, imaginings of the worst scenario run through that neighbors head. And then they call that anonymous reporting line and turn her in. "See something say something" My friend that got the call said he felt sorry for the one customer he had that had a Che Guevera poster framed in his den. Because if a contractor came to work on the central air unit located outside the window of that den looked in they could decide to report that customer. After all, they're framing the image and likeness of a Cuban communist in their home. Which indicates respect for the man and his principles. Scary isn't it? See something say something = imagine something report something How does one recover from having their name written down on a federal reporting line for suspect behavior in America today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyprayers Posted March 8, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 209 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 127 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2017 22 hours ago, Ezra said: And you don't believe that the Communists were trying to undermine the government and subvert America? What you see to day in all the universities and in society is a result of the assault of Communism on America. Saul Alinsky's influence has motivated Obama, Hillary, and the whole Left-liberal "progressivism". As to Jihad, it is a fact of life in the western world. The only problem is that the politicians and leaders refuse to accept this fact, and have gone into denial. Sweden is one of the best examples. Much of Alinsky's principle teachings were incorporated into the running of the country by Obama and even Hillary when she was SoS. "Rules for Radicals", Alinsky's book ,was apparently studied as a text book for political science government 101 going by what at the very least Barack demonstrated while in office. And yes, Communists were working to impede America. They still are you may have noticed. But a people that lose their national security and their right to privacy in order to hunt foxes in the hen's house, while recruiting people to act as spies and that bolsters the level of paranoia and delusion among certain of the population, isn't any better a solution than that which contravenes Communist ideology and rhetoric in speeches geared to foster that kind of collusion. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. [Ben Franklin] What the commoner in this age fails to comprehend while defending their concession to relinquishment of their personal sovereignty as a citizen and their personal privacy in the face of this latest foe is, the one's in charge of them are not doing so. The one's in charge aren't speaking of themselves when they advocate gun seizure and controls that prohibit access by the common people. The mikros kosmos bubble that occupies most common peoples attention is what gives those in charge an advantage when proposing compression of others rights and freedoms. Those about to be compelled to consent to relinquishment of those parameters of their former freedoms are so preoccupied with the pending that they aren't aware of the international examples that should give forewarning. Great Britain for example. The commoners there were disarmed by government decree. Now however, the palace guard are carrying assault weapons. And the police force are disarmed save for having a special branch permitted to carry weapons . And that branch has to be dispatched to a scene once the unarmed officers find they're ill equipped to deal with an issue in their present condition. Has GB turned into a paradise of peace and prosperity for that act of disarmament of the commoners? London is one of the most surveilled cities in all of Europe. There is even a software program that has facial recognition capabilities that can penetrate disguises like masks so as to find the bone structures that allow a cross comparison of database photos. In America Wikileaks released over eight thousand classified CIA documents just this week. In those it is revealed that false narratives concerning an enemy threat have been manufactured by such agencies. In order to further the compression and control policies that are launched by the legislative branch in direct response. Smart phones! Anyone here have one? Have you noticed how the carriers are now offering them free if you switch to their service? All electronic communications in America are government controlled. And in the case of the Smart Phones those it turns out and per the released 8 thousand page documents, can be turned on without the owners knowledge so as to hear everything that is going on . The microphone opens and you transmit your activities to whomever is listening. Recently in the news here a drug dealer who killed someone was arrested. How was he caught? Amazingly he butt dialed 911 at the time he was detailing to an associate the murder he'd just committed . No one's butt is that dexterous. He was turned in by whomever was listening because they turned the phone audio feed toward 911. Samsung TV's Smart TV. I would accept one as a gift because I'd sell it in the box. Otherwise, never would it enter my home. Because Samsung has said they can open the audio on their TV and listen to everything going on in the home.If they can open an audio feed, just like Smart Phone Samsung and other manufacturers can, how do we think they won't also open the video feed? What good is audio without visuals so as to put the audio into proper context? But it's for your own security. So when you ask what's wrong with people being told they should act as government agents and report suspect behavior, I ask you, what makes that policy any different than communism? 10 hours ago, Jewels7 said: It's that old adage all over again isn't it? Those that don't learn from their history are condemned to repeat it. There was a Hollywood blacklist during the McCarthy era. Actors didn't work if their names were on it because they were thought to side with the communists. It was like the witch hunts of old. Point, accuse, arrest, try, kill. Only in the case of the Hollywood black list the death came when the actor couldn't get work. And their name was smeared with the dread "C" word before it. After 9-11-2001 people were in a panic over the M word. One woman to her eternal shame made the news turning in three suspect terrorists she overheard in a diner laughing about the 9-11 assaults. The men she turned in were medical school students. She lied and profiled them because they appeared Arab to her. Long horribly sad story short, she reported suspicious behavior that only transpired in her warped imagination. And the three men lost their place in the medical college they were traveling to at the time they stopped at that diner. When that call came from homeland security encouraging reporting of suspect behavior, I remember when I was told about that call what I was thinking. Imagine the reach of such an anonymous reporting system. What a beautiful way for a warped person like that woman in the diner to destroy someone's life. "TERRORIST!" The scarlet T that when applied makes one guilty until they can prove they're innocent of the charge. Call authorities! Alert to the dread T word in your area. Ruin a life out of spite. Or just because while walking past their house one day you happened to look in the window and saw the lady of the house donning a Niqāb. When before this person walking by had never seen the lady of the house attired in such a way. A secret Muslim? Fear, imaginings of the worst scenario run through that neighbors head. And then they call that anonymous reporting line and turn her in. "See something say something" My friend that got the call said he felt sorry for the one customer he had that had a Che Guevera poster framed in his den. Because if a contractor came to work on the central air unit located outside the window of that den looked in they could decide to report that customer. After all, they're framing the image and likeness of a Cuban communist in their home. Which indicates respect for the man and his principles. Scary isn't it? See something say something = imagine something report something How does one recover from having their name written down on a federal reporting line for suspect behavior in America today? I envision long after I'm dead America becoming the Prison planet of this earth. There will be a world government. No money just identity chips implanted into those who are part of the system. The excuse long years before being that identity theft and fraud using standard currency was too costly. This way a biomarker identity chip that is programmed to the implantee's genetic markers is impervious to such tactics as that. And it insures the individuals personal security. Those two words cause many people to abdicate their personal privacy far too often . Of course the tracking methods of today will have evolved to a fine point by then. And those identity markers, that will also be implanted into newborns using the scare tactic of child abduction prevention or recovery, will also act as tracking devices. Like the Smart Phones, cell phone SIM cards, that are also on credit and debit cards now, ON-STAR, which is owned by the government after their buyout of GM, and EZ-PASS, do now. We're doomed because we're easily programmed to fear an unseen enemy out to get us. Quote “Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or fascist dictorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” ― Hermann Göring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyprayers Posted March 8, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 209 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 127 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 3/6/2017 at 8:30 PM, Ezra said: Why should counter-terrorism be compared to McCarthyism? Jihadists have openly declared a war to the finish with the West, Christians, and Jews. Because the underlying solution is similar. And when McCarthyism was active the same excuse predicated the force of action by federal officials. The Communists have openly declared. A Communist ideology ran this country for eight years from our White house. A Communist ideology begged to be elected to make it a third term for that outgoing betrayer of American ideology. Communist ideology is weaving itself into progressive left wing politics. The bogeyman of Islamic terror is real and yet it was enabled and armed by our last commander in chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyprayers Posted March 8, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 209 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 127 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 3/7/2017 at 1:54 AM, Jesusislord123 said: It's just really sad that this is what the world has come to, but then again I guess it was supposed to Odd circumstance isn't it. There are people who teach that all things transpire according to what God has preplanned, preordained, to happen. And yet when it is happening to them they pray for it to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Is Jesus Coming? Posted March 28, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 505 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 299 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/19/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 As presumed an attack got through. Again the Muslim motive was involved in the mix. So how can Britain defend against this? Certainly there is already the governments Prevent programme that has had some success but what more could be done? Ideas anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Noodle Posted March 29, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 573 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/27/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 29, 2017 I remember the billboard campaign someone mentioned here that started up right after September 11th. I don't think Britain can go wrong with a reporting system being the terror attacks there have been happening since 2001. Though it does afford opportunity for unscrupulous people to mess with those they're angry with by giving a false report, I'd hope that isn't the case at all or for the most part as all of Britain suffers for the time wasted in expending resources toward such reports. Something has to be done to stop the terror . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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