PetriFB64 Posted March 9, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 27 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2017 The deceived and the deceiver! Why should we address these matters and write about them? The Lord Jesus told us to beware of deceivers and false prophets in the last days. That is why we, too, must address these matters and write about them, while keeping in mind that we need to address the matters in a loving, gentle way, highlighting Bible truth and glorifying the Lord Jesus. The Bible also says that in the final days of the end of days, many Christians will give up Bible truth and, in their apostasy, they will start following demonic spirits and doctrines of demons, while still thinking that they believe in Jesus even though they have given up the truth and exchanged the truth for lies. That is why we, too, must address these matters so that we would not get lost and so that those who have gotten lost would be able to repent and again believe in Jesus in accordance with what the Bible teaches. More info: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/deceivedanddeceiver.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 9, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 904 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,642 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,828 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2017 The point begs the question... how far does the deception go? What burned me out most in the apologetics ministry was not the opposition from the enemy, but the combatants in my own faith who opposed the very scriptures I pointed out to them. Many times the greatest adversaries are legit born again believers who are unwittingly doing the devil's work because they are deceived into thinking it's the LORD's work. {{SIGH}} Dare we begin to stretch the Bible out along side Church traditions, doctrines, platforms etc. to reveal just how deeply the deception runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 9, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 904 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,642 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,828 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2017 Point being, deception outside "the Church" is a given. Where it matters is inside "the Church." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted March 9, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2017 5 hours ago, PetriFB64 said: The deceived and the deceiver! Why should we address these matters and write about them? The Lord Jesus told us to beware of deceivers and false prophets in the last days. That is why we, too, must address these matters and write about them, while keeping in mind that we need to address the matters in a loving, gentle way, highlighting Bible truth and glorifying the Lord Jesus. The Bible also says that in the final days of the end of days, many Christians will give up Bible truth and, in their apostasy, they will start following demonic spirits and doctrines of demons, while still thinking that they believe in Jesus even though they have given up the truth and exchanged the truth for lies. That is why we, too, must address these matters so that we would not get lost and so that those who have gotten lost would be able to repent and again believe in Jesus in accordance with what the Bible teaches. More info: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/deceivedanddeceiver.html Your quote makes me think of the likes of Joel Osteen. Handsome guy, beautiful wife, fine expensive clothes; its all about looks with people like them....they preach the trash that they do and people who follow them come away believing they can be just like them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted March 9, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 53 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,411 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,508 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 9, 2017 46 minutes ago, JohnD said: The point begs the question... how far does the deception go? What burned me out most in the apologetics ministry was not the opposition from the enemy, but the combatants in my own faith who opposed the very scriptures I pointed out to them. Many times the greatest adversaries are legit born again believers who are unwittingly doing the devil's work because they are deceived into thinking it's the LORD's work. {{SIGH}} Dare we begin to stretch the Bible out along side Church traditions, doctrines, platforms etc. to reveal just how deeply the deception runs? So a follow up question to your thoughts. When a believer is born again, he is supposed to have the indwelt Holy Spirit to teach and guide him along the way of his Christian walk. He is also helped in supernatural, spiritual way to avoid the pitfalls and traps set by the enemy. How then, does he become entangled in false doctrines and led away ?. What may be some leading factors in him going astray and not following the narrow pathways . What are your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted March 10, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.36 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 10, 2017 8 hours ago, warrior12 said: What may be some leading factors in him going astray and not following the narrow pathways . Babes in Christ do not become mature adults overnight. Unless they are properly discipled and taught how to study the Word, beginning with the milk and moving on to the meat, they will be easily deceived and side-tracked. Most churches today do not have a plan for systematically teaching Bible truth and Gospel truth. Much of the preaching is shallow, not Bible-based. Some preachers are even plagiarizing the sermons of others, rather than doing the hard work necessary to do a proper job. That is why you see so many weird ideas being promoted on Christian forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 13, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 904 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,642 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,828 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 13, 2017 On 3/9/2017 at 11:04 AM, warrior12 said: So a follow up question to your thoughts. When a believer is born again, he is supposed to have the indwelt Holy Spirit to teach and guide him along the way of his Christian walk. He is also helped in supernatural, spiritual way to avoid the pitfalls and traps set by the enemy. How then, does he become entangled in false doctrines and led away ?. What may be some leading factors in him going astray and not following the narrow pathways . What are your thoughts. Listening to the Holy Spirit is a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTC Posted March 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,795 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 1,502 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/25/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1952 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I clicked on the link given and started reading the page and stopped pretty quickly because it's all false teaching. I mean the stuff on the page that link goes to. It's ridiculous, it has nothing to do with God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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