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"“Climate change is impacting stability in areas of the world where our troops are operating today,” he told senators. 

“It is appropriate for the Combatant Commands to incorporate drivers of instability that impact the security environment in their areas into their planning.”...

“As I noted above, climate change is a challenge that requires a broader, whole-of government response,” General Mattis replied."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/james-mattis-us-defence-secretary-climate-change-destabilise-world-security-donald-trump-global-a7630676.html

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Indeed. We were commanded to be stewards of the earth, and by and large we've failed at it. Unfortunately, the current administration doesn't seem interested in doing much about it. 

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16 hours ago, Tea Ess said:

Indeed. We were commanded to be stewards of the earth, and by and large we've failed at it. Unfortunately, the current administration doesn't seem interested in doing much about it. 

Gobal Warming aka "Climate Change" is a hoax.

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49 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Gobal Warming aka "Climate Change" is a hoax.

So do you think Mattis is lying? 

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1 hour ago, Tea Ess said:

So do you think Mattis is lying? 

I think Mattis is mistaken.   Global Warming is a hoax.  It is unfortunate that he bought into the hoax.

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6 hours ago, Davida said:

God is in control of the weather not humankind. The climate upon the earth changes if there are any unusual climactic disturbances it is because the natural is reflecting the spiritual state of the world, it is late in the hour and an alarm is beginning to go off.  We should set our time by Israel & what is happening in the middle east as the Biblical prophetic players are coming into position. When has Russia been military Super power in the Middle East? never until now. We are in the last days as Jesus described for His disciples. It is time for people to wake up, turn from their sin as the time is running out. Of course many are not remembering what the Bible says about paying attention & seeing the signs.  

The Return of the Son of Man

(Matthew 24:26-31; Mark 13:24-27)

25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draws near."

The lesson of the Fig Tree

(Matthew 24:32-35; Mark 13:28-31)

29And he spoke to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30When they now shoot forth, you see and know of your own selves that summer is now near at hand. 31So likewise you, when you see these things come to pass, know you that the kingdom of God is near at hand. 32Truly I say to you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away."

Be Watchful

34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come on you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36Watch you therefore, and pray always, that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

If one reads the Bible, the earth is not in any danger from Global Warming.    God is sovereign over creation.   God created the world and the Bible tells us that Jesus is upholding everything by His divine power.     God is sovereign over the climate and He is not going to to let man destroy the earth.

Global Warming is simply a made up crisis that is more about controlling the masses than it is about saving the planet.  The planet doesn't need saving.   It is going to continue on until God ultimately destroys this earth and creates a New Heavens and New Earth.  

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There are many misconceptions in this thread, I will try and address them.

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Gobal Warming aka "Climate Change" is a hoax

Climate change is not a hoax, it is real and verifiable.  That the climate is changing outside of the normal cycle is not in question, the only questions are what is the cause and what can be done about it.  We are seeing the results of the climate change all over the world.  The flooding problems in California are a result of this sudden change.  The Cali water control system was designed to deal with what that climate of the region had been for hundreds of years.  That has now changed in the last couple of decades and the result is the system cannot deal with it.   

Thank goodness for people like Gen Mattis who are willing to put aside their politics and put the good of the country first.  The military has been making plans for more than a decade on what will be the coming consequences of the changing climate.  The next big wars will not be fought over oil or such, but over much more basic resources.  Prior to retiring I worked on a paper that was published by the DOD on the subject.  I spent the better part of a year learning about climate change and the effects it will have so we can best learn how to cope with it.

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And thats the thing... what are you going to do about it?  (considering it was not a hoax)  No one can do anything about it. 

In the late 70s and early 80s the scientific community raised the concern about the use of Ozone depleting substances, or ODS gasses.  At that time the world listened and the use and production of the gases was curtailed and now they are used and produced almost not at all.  The result was the strengthening of the ozone layer and the avoidance  of a catastrophe. We can make a difference if we could only put our political views aside for a short time.

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If one reads the Bible, the earth is not in any danger from Global Warming.

Climate change was never about a danger to the earth, but to us humans living on the earth.   To suggest that climate change is a danger to the planet is to totally misunderstand the very topic itself. 

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On 3/18/2017 at 10:47 PM, Cletus said:

And thats the thing... what are you going to do about it?  (considering it was not a hoax)  No one can do anything about it.  But what they can do is tell you we neeeed to go to these style light bulbs that use 5.7 jigawatts less... and save the planet.  Then when they switch over to the new style bulbs and you first see them in the store you realize they are more expensive.  cha ching... gotcha. 

its all about making money.  If they dont have a crisis they can sell you they make one up.  give you a sense of urgency.  Thats why it changed from global warming to climate change because they could no longer say its getting hotter when it was getting colder.  even the boat with a research crew going to north pole to research how to combat global warming... then got iced in and the first rescue helicopter had to turn back.  I think that was God making a statement. 

there is nothing anyone can do... there is no changing the weather. 

You bring up a good point.  They had to change the name from Global Warming to "Climate Change"  because the science simply didn't support the claims being made by Global Warming extremists.   

Calling it "Climate Change"  is like saying a strawberry is red.   The climate is always changing.  God gave us a planet He designed with an internal temperature regulation capacity.  The earth warms and cools in order to maintain its homeostasis.

Global Warming was the perfect excuse to tell people what kind of car  to drive and what kind of toilets, and light bulbs and washing machines to buy.   It was all about controlling us, not saving the environment.  

And NONE of the garbage the Global Warming extremists were predicting over the last 15 years ever happened.   The US was supposed be under water by now and the polar bears were supposed to be extinct and the ice caps were supposed to be gone.  Instead, the polar bear population has increased as well as the polar ice caps. 

As followers of Jesus, we have nothing to worry about from Global Warming and other such hoaxes.  It really depends on where you place your trust.   From the Global Warming extremists to the "prepper"  nuts, you would think the world is about to explode or something.  The good thing is that we have a Bible that tells us how things are going to turn out and global warming isn't part of it. 

We can either believe the Bible and trust God, or trust in fallible sinful man.

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They had to change the name from Global Warming to "Climate Change"  because the science simply didn't support the claims being made by Global Warming extremists.   

The change was the result of the right wing extremists who misunderstood the theory and everytime it snowed would go "ha, there is no global warming, it is snowing".

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Calling it "Climate Change"  is like saying a strawberry is red.   The climate is always changing.  God gave us a planet He designed with an internal temperature regulation capacity.  The earth warms and cools in order to maintain its homeostasis.

Yes, God did design the planet that way, which is why we know today what is happening is not part of that normal cycle.  God's design gave us a climate cycle that was recordable and predictable, and what is happening today is outside of that normal cycle.

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And NONE of the garbage the Global Warming extremists were predicting over the last 15 years ever happened

A person should never judge anything by what the extremist say, be it the science of climate change or the religion of Christianity. Christian extremists have made bold predictions about the day the earth would end for the last 2000 years, and they have all not happened.  Should people thus reject Christianity based on those extremists?

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Has scientists ever proven that the Sun really does have temperature changes?  Is the Climate changes due to what is occurring out in Space or is it due to what is not being done here on Earth?  And if the world's stability is at 'risk', should the 'world' begin to start doing things right for itself? 

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