zorgblar Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Seeker Followers: 1 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 356 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 When the three magi found jesus did they use astrology to do it?And if they did why would God allow it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 hour ago, zorgblar said: When the three magi found jesus did they use astrology to do it?And if they did why would God allow it? They honored YHWH THE CREATOR, and knew the SIGNS YHWH put in the HEAVENS. i.e. not pagan, not heathen, not ungodly astrology that most everyone know's about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 Question: "What does the Bible say about the three wise men (Magi)?" Answer: We assume that there were three wise men because of the three gifts that were given: gold, incense, and myrrh (Matthew 2:11). However, the Bible does not say there were only three wise men. There could have been many more. Tradition says that there were three and that their names were Gaspar/Caspar, Melchior, and Balthasar/Balthazar, but since the Bible does not say, we have no way of knowing whether the tradition is accurate. It is a common misconception that the wise men visited Jesus at the stable on the night of His birth. In fact, the wise men came days, months, or possibly even years later. That is why Matthew 2:11 says the wise men visited and worshiped Jesus in a house, not at the stable. We know that the magi were wise men from "the East," most likely Persia, or modern-day Iran. This means the wise men traveled 800 to 900 miles to see the Christ child. Most likely, the magi knew of the writings of the prophet Daniel, who in time past had been the chief of the court seers in Persia. Daniel 9:24-27 includes a prophecy which gives a timeline for the birth of the Messiah. Also, the magi may have been aware of the prophecy of Balaam (who was from the town of Pethor on the Euphrates River near Persia) in Numbers 24:17. Balaam's prophecy specifically mentions a “star coming out of Jacob.” The wise men were guided to look for the King of the Jews by a miraculous stellar event, the “Star of Bethlehem,” which they called “His star” (Matthew 2:2). They came to Jerusalem and asked concerning the birth of Christ, and they were directed to Bethlehem (Matthew 2:4–8). They followed God’s guidance joyfully (Matthew 2:10). When they arrived in Bethlehem, they gave costly gifts to Jesus and worshiped Him. God warned them in a dream against returning to Herod, so, in defiance of the king, they left Judea by another route (Matthew 2:12). So, the magi were men who 1) read and believed God's Word, 2) sought Jesus, 3) recognized the worth of Christ, 4) humbled themselves to worship Jesus, and 5) obeyed God rather than man. They were truly wise men! https://www.gotquestions.org/three-wise-men.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindle Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 53 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,748 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 hour ago, zorgblar said: When the three magi found jesus did they use astrology to do it?And if they did why would God allow it? They weren't using astrology they were using astronomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, worthy said: They weren't using astrology they were using astronomy. "Yes" Worthy, there's a big difference between the two.. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,851 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,760 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, worthy said: They weren't using astrology they were using astronomy. Only the Magi could see the Star, and only when God allowed it, what does that mean? They study the stars, and were waiting for a message from the stars, this people believed that God could use the stars to warn people, or give people messages from God. Was just a light, a star like light to show that the Light of the world has come to be among the people. It is impossible to be a real star, impossible to the most impossible . ( like when we see a planet that reflects the light of the Sun, or another Sun of a far away System). The star of the Magi, was still visible to them, even at High Noon . And the Magi objerve the star rising from the East and stop at Jesus, pointing who is that great light . There is a reason why the light left and then came back. The Magi had no reason to make up stories and they got nothing out of it, as it is to day, that they could profit by published a book, or make a movie out of their escapade , even their life's got endanger . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BacKaran Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 And the Magi were in caravans of people not just three men. That's why Jerrod the paranoid head all children killed to yes and under.... He was a puppet King for Cesar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindle Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 53 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 4,064 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,748 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 hour ago, angels4u said: "Yes" Worthy, there's a big difference between the two.. :) 1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said: Only the Magi could see the Star, and only when God allowed it, what does that mean? I'm going to do a study on it for you and then respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted March 18, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,851 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,760 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 18, 2017 18 minutes ago, worthy said: I'm going to do a study on it for you and then respond. Thank you for your response. I have been thinking about it, because we read that the Magi couldn't see the light at some point, and that's must have happened when they were around Judea. they may have thought that their journey has guided them to Judea and where else to look for the future King but at the King's Palace. Their thoughts could have been that the King had a Son, and that he would be the Great King. So the Magi must have been perplexed, and dismay and there was no star to guide them. And then they were extremely glad to see the light of the star agan. ( Herod must had made inquiries with his own Magis and none could say that they had seen or they knew anything about the appearance of that Light or the star. "and they were extremely glad to see the Star and his Guiding Light again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 The Bible says that the proof of GOD and the Redeemer are written in the stars. That I one of the reasons that man will have no excuse as to the existence of GOD. So, the Star in the sky leading the way to the baby Jesus was perfectly in line with the character of GOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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