Heb 13:8 Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sojourner414 said: When you're trying to second-guess the Lord by using planets and other celestial bodies to "declare" an event the Lord has not given any signs for, you've turned it into astrology. God is the one using planets and celestial bodies, not me 414. The Word of God says the lights in the sky are for signs, times, days, years, seasons. God Bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Horse Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 364 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2017 46 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: No, I will just settle for waking up and going to bed on 23rd realizing that once again, for at least the third year in a row, the conspiracy folks were proven wrong, once more. It will be interesting and entertaining to watch them explain how that they were taken out of context and really didn't claim what claimed. So you are not 100% sure that you will be here on 24 you say . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Horse Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 364 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2017 46 minutes ago, Sojourner414 said: Right, it doesn't. It's one thing to be waiting for the return of Jesus, but it's another to be setting dates based on anything from a "certain star/ planet alignment" (astrology) to a squirrel giving someone funny looks in the park. O.o Jesus said that we can know season tho , so less than 3 months of his comming we can know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, shiloh357 said: None of that has anything to do with the return of Jesus in 2017. The Head / Body (1.) John uses the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5, head and body Col 1:18 (2.) The head (Jesus Christ) was birthed 2,000 years ago when He ascended to heaven Acts 1:1-11 (3.) The body (the church) however was conceived 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, not birthed Acts 2:1-4 (4.) Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade) (5.) The body (the church) has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Luke 22:39-46, (Acts 2:24 ódin/agony of death/childbirth), Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:22-23, 2 Cor 5:1-5, Phil 3:20-21 (6.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2. (7.) The birth of the body into incorruptible seed is next, through rapture event Rom 6:1-5, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:17, 1 Pet 1:4, 1 Pet 1:23, Rev 12:5 (8.) John uses "teknon" (the church) once in Rev 12:4 and once in Rev 12:5 (9.) The body of Christ is raptured before the dragon devours us, (the moment he was born) Rev 12:4-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Sojourner414 said: See you Sept. 24th. The Head / Body (1.) John uses the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5, head and body Col 1:18 (2.) The head (Jesus Christ) was birthed 2,000 years ago when He ascended to heaven Acts 1:1-11 (3.) The body (the church) however was conceived 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, not birthed Acts 2:1-4 (4.) Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade) (5.) The body (the church) has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Luke 22:39-46, (Acts 2:24 ódin/agony of death/childbirth), Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:22-23, 2 Cor 5:1-5, Phil 3:20-21 (6.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2. (7.) The birth of the body into incorruptible seed is next, through rapture event Rom 6:1-5, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:17, 1 Pet 1:4, 1 Pet 1:23, Rev 12:5 (8.) John uses "teknon" (the church) once in Rev 12:4 and once in Rev 12:5 (9.) The body of Christ is raptured before the dragon devours us, (the moment he was born) Rev 12:4-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Amazing Horse said: So you are not 100% sure that you will be here on 24 you say . No, I am 100% sure I will be here on the 24th and so will everyone else who didn't die an untimely death on the 23rd. 1 hour ago, Amazing Horse said: Jesus said that we can know season tho , so less than 3 months of his comming we can know . Jesus never said we can know the season of His return. 11 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said: The Head / Body (1.) John uses the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5, head and body Col 1:18 (2.) The head (Jesus Christ) was birthed 2,000 years ago when He ascended to heaven Acts 1:1-11 (3.) The body (the church) however was conceived 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, not birthed Acts 2:1-4 (4.) Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade) (5.) The body (the church) has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Luke 22:39-46, (Acts 2:24 ódin/agony of death/childbirth), Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:22-23, 2 Cor 5:1-5, Phil 3:20-21 (6.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2. (7.) The birth of the body into incorruptible seed is next, through rapture event Rom 6:1-5, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:17, 1 Pet 1:4, 1 Pet 1:23, Rev 12:5 (8.) John uses "teknon" (the church) once in Rev 12:4 and once in Rev 12:5 (9.) The body of Christ is raptured before the dragon devours us, (the moment he was born) Rev 12:4-5 Still doesn't mean that Jesus is coming back in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Heb 13:8 said: Can you show me why. The sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations are for signs, times, days, years, seasons Gen 1:14, Job 38:31-32, Psa 19:1-6, Psa 104:19, Psa 136:7, Isa 40:26, Luke 21:25-28. First of all, Jesus is not going to return until the war of Armageddon, and before that we still have seven years of tribulatoin, the anti-christ, the mark of the beast and a whole host of things that have to happen before he returns and sets up his kingdom and there are no signs for the rapture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Horse Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 364 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: No, I am 100% sure I will be here on the 24th and so will everyone else who didn't die an untimely death on the 23rd. Jesus never said we can know the season of His return. Still doesn't mean that Jesus is coming back in 2017. What sign would be enought for you to know that Christ is comming ? Like what is your expectations before he comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Amazing Horse said: What sign would be enought for you to know that Christ is comming ? Like what is your expectations before he comes I know He is coming. I am waiting and looking for the rapture.. But I don't call him a liar by setting dates for it when He clearly states that we cannot. There are no signs for the rapture. The signs in the stars pertain to the second coming but those signs occur in the middle of the Tribulation so this Sept. 23rd stuff is pretty much a dead stick. Jesus' return will will be preceded by a the Antichrist confirming a covenant with Israel for 7 years, and the mark of the beast and gathering of the nations at Meggido. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted September 18, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Jesus never said we can know the season of His return. Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons (moed), and for days, and years: Lev 23:2 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'These are my appointed festivals (moed), the appointed festivals (moed) of the LORD, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies. Rev 12:1-2 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. moed: appointed time, place, or meeting Original Word: מוֹעֵד Part of Speech: Noun Masculine Transliteration: moed Phonetic Spelling: (mo-ade') Short Definition: meeting 1. The Passover (God leads the Jews out of Egypt and slavery) 2. Unleavened Bread (The Death and Burial of Jesus Christ) 3. First Fruits (Resurrection of Jesus Christ) 4. Feast of Weeks/Pentecost (The beginning of the church age, Holy Spirit indwells believers) 5. Feast of Trumpets (The rapture of the church) 6. Day of Atonement (Jesus lands on the Mount of Olives and atones for the sins of Israel at the end of the 7 year tribulation) 7. Feast of Tabernacles (The 1,000 year reign with Christ) 4 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Still doesn't mean that Jesus is coming back in 2017. Is the woman giving birth this year or another year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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