9/23/17, Rev 12:5, X etc..

[Heb 13:8]

15 hours ago, Cletus said:

Is that a yes?

Yes. The Day of the Lord is near.

[other one]

1 hour ago, Heb 13:8 said:

I would disagree. The Rev 12 sign is indeed speaking about His soon return, rapture and also the 70th week of Daniel. John uses the word "huios", "teknon", and the word for rapture "harpazo" in Rev 12:5 to connect the head (Jesus Christ) with the body (the church).

The "Day of the Lord" is also in connection with "the woman in labor" which is in September of 2017 when Virgo gives birth to Jupiter..

Isa 13:6-8 Wail, for the day of the Lord is near; it will come like destruction from the Almighty. 7Because of this, all hands will go limp, every heart will melt with fear. 8Terror will seize them, pain and anguish will grip them; they will writhe like a woman in labor. They will look aghast at each other, their faces aflame.

 

Isa 26:17-21 As a pregnant woman about to give birth writhes and cries out in her pain, so were we in your presence, Lord. 18We were with child, we writhed in labor, but we gave birth to wind. We have not brought salvation to the earth, and the people of the world have not come to life. 19But your dead will live, Lord; their bodies will rise— let those who dwell in the dust wake up and shout for joy— your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead. 20Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by. 21See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed on it; the earth will conceal its slain no longer.

 

Jer 30:6-7 Ask and see: Can a man bear children? Then why do I see every strong man with his hands on his stomach like a woman in labor, every face turned deathly pale? 7How awful that day will be! No other will be like it. It will be a time of trouble for Jacob, but he will be saved out of it.

 

1 Thess 5:1-3 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

You are making some jumps from single words that I have learned over my 70 years is too much to maintain reality

[Heb 13:8]

3 hours ago, other one said:

You are making some jumps from single words that I have learned over my 70 years is too much to maintain reality

What have you learned.

[Heb 13:8]

In the book of Enoch it says, "Then pain shall come upon them as on a woman in travail with birth pangs -when she is giving birth the child enters the mouth of the womb and she suffers from childbearing."

 

In the book of Enoch it also says, ""One half portion of them shall glance at the other half; they shall be terrified and dejected; and pain shall seize them when they see that Son of Man sitting on the throne of His splendor."

 

Isa 13:6-8 Wail, for the day of the Lord is near; it will come like destruction from the Almighty. 7Because of this, all hands will go limp, every heart will melt with fear. 8Terror will seize them, pain and anguish will grip them; they will writhe like a woman in labor. They will look aghast at each other, their faces aflame.

 

Rev 12:1-5 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.   2  She (Israel) was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.   3  Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon (Satan) with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads.   4  Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon (Satan) stood in front of the woman (Israel) who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child (teknon the church) the moment he was born.   5  She gave birth to a son (huios Jesus Christ himself), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child (teknon the church) was snatched up (harpazo) to God and to his throne.

 

- Heb 13:8

[Heb 13:8]

If you read Rev 12:1-2 and Rev 15:1, these signs take place in the heavens where the sun, moon, stars and planets reside. God uses the heavens as a billboard to notify us of events that are about to take place, similar to how He used the blood moon Tetrad's by placing them on Jewish Holidays in 1967, 1948 and 2014.

Gen 1:14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years.

Virgo - Virgo in the constellations represents a woman. Israel is our mother in the sense that she gave birth to Christianity (the body of Christ) 2000 years ago by putting Jesus to death. Conception of the body of Christ began at Pentecost, Acts 2:1-4. The body of Christ has been in gestation for 2000 years. We can know all this because the word "harpazo" is an event for the body of Christ only in Rev 12:5.

Virgo is one of the constellations of the zodiac. Its name is Latin for virgin, and its symbol is ♍. Lying between Leo to the west and Libra to the east, it is the second largest constellation in the sky (after Hydra). It can be easily found through its brightest star, Spica.
 
Jupiter - Jupiter not only represents Jesus in the Rev 12:1-5 great sign, it is also representing (the body of Christ 1 Cor 12:27) by connecting (the head Jesus Christ Col 1:18) to the body (the church) through rapture harpazo in Rev 12:5. Jupiter is the King planet and the largest planet in the solar system, and is a representation of Christ dominion over the universe and also Israel John 19:3. God is using Jupiter as a symbol of rapture.

If you study the birth of the church you will see Virgo giving birth to Jupiter in September of 2017. Jupiter is the king planet which represents Christ and also the body (the church) that is in Christ. When you become saved the Holy Spirit indwells you, and you become one with the body of Christ. God is using a birthing metaphor to describe the conception of the church 2,000 years ago, and He is also using a birthing metaphor in the end times by using the sun, moon, stars and planets. The conception of the church began at Pentecost 2,000 years ago and has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now. Jesus Christ is the head of the church, and born again Christians are the body. The head came out of the womb when Jesus was resurrected and ascended to heaven 2,000 years ago.
 
When you study a natural birth of a baby being born the head comes out first, then the body. The body of Jesus Christ which is the church (Jupiter) entered Virgo's womb in November of 2016 and is in a gestation period right now. The church will be birthed in September of 2017 which will be 42 weeks in the womb (a normal gestation period for a natural birth).

- Heb 13:8

[Heb 13:8]

On ‎4‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 9:50 PM, Revelation Man said:

This is of Satan, this whole supposed sign in Heaven. That's just my opinion. Satan can appear as an Angel of Light. He is very intelligent.

If the Rev 12 sign is false, then how, where and when do you see Rev 12:1-5 coming to pass in the heavens? Are you saying that Rev 12:1-5 isn't a part of the 66 books? Are you saying the alignment is false? There's even an app you can download on to your cell phones to see Jupiter in the womb right now.

[Revelation Man]

9 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

If the Rev 12 sign is false, then how, where and when do you see Rev 12:1-5 coming to pass in the heavens? Are you saying that Rev 12:1-5 isn't a part of the 66 books? Are you saying the alignment is false? There's even an app you can download on to your cell phones to see Jupiter in the womb right now.

Rev. 12:1-5 is a Vision, so it was a GREAT WONDER that appeared in Heaven or a sign to John. So John saw a VISION of a Woman, Dressed (or with a) Sun and the Moon under her FEET and a CROWN of 12 Stars in her HEAD. (So its a VISION of a Woman in the Heavens because she has the Sun, Moon and Stars adorning her. ITS JUST A VISION !!! Like all of Revelation is.

 BUT...John also heard her CRY as TRAVAILING IN BIRTH......Where is that part in your STAR THEORY? 

Jupiter was Zeus, and before that Belios, before that Bel and before that BAAL. 

This was a VISION.................

 

No different from the other wild visions in Revelation where John saw Demon locusts etc. etc. etc.

 

[Heb 13:8]

4 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

This was a VISION.................

Rev 12:1-2 is not only a vision, it's called "a great sign". This great sign is coming to pass on 9/23/17.

4 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

BUT...John also heard her CRY as TRAVAILING IN BIRTH......Where is that part in your STAR THEORY? 

Virgo is Israel, the woman (our mother). Jupiter is the child, the body of Christ. Israel travailing in birth is in reference to the Day of the Lord and the 70th week of Daniel..

Enoch 62:4-5 "Then pain shall come upon them as on a woman in travail with birth pangs -when she is giving birth the child enters the mouth of the womb and she suffers from childbearing." 5In the book of Enoch it also says, ""One half portion of them shall glance at the other half; they shall be terrified and dejected; and pain shall seize them when they see that Son of Man sitting on the throne of His splendor."

Isa 13:6-8 Wail, for the day of the Lord is near; it will come like destruction from the Almighty. 7Because of this, all hands will go limp, every heart will melt with fear. 8Terror will seize them, pain and anguish will grip them; they will writhe like a woman in labor. They will look aghast at each other, their faces aflame.

 

Isa 26:17-21 As a pregnant woman about to give birth writhes and cries out in her pain, so were we in your presence, Lord. 18We were with child, we writhed in labor, but we gave birth to wind. We have not brought salvation to the earth, and the people of the world have not come to life. 19But your dead will live, Lord; their bodies will rise— let those who dwell in the dust wake up and shout for joy— your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead. 20Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by. 21See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed on it; the earth will conceal its slain no longer.

 

Jer 30:6-7 Ask and see: Can a man bear children? Then why do I see every strong man with his hands on his stomach like a woman in labor, every face turned deathly pale? 7How awful that day will be! No other will be like it. It will be a time of trouble for Jacob, but he will be saved out of it.

 

1 Thess 5:1-3 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

[Revelation Man]

8 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Rev 12:1-2 is not only a vision, it's called "a great sign". This great sign is coming to pass on 9/23/17.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

If you say so, buts its not a factual event. The Woman was Israel 2000 years ago when John saw the WONDER in Heaven. The Baby/Male-child was Jesus who had ascended to Heaven BEFORE John saw the Vision. The Dragon was Satan, he tried to kill the Baby at Birth  2000 years ago. So remind me why this "SIGN" in Heaven needs come to pass in the FUTURE when the meaning of the WONDER has already come to pass.

 

8 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Virgo is Israel, the woman (our mother). Jupiter is the child, the body of Christ. Israel travailing in birth is in reference to the Day of the Lord and the 70th week of Daniel..

 

Jupiter is Zeus who was Belios who was Bel who was Baal. Or Satan. Rev............... 12:1-5 has come and gone.

Edited April 11, 2017 by Revelation Man

[other one]

3 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Jupiter is Zeus who was Belios who was Bel who was Baal. Or Satan. Rev............... 12:1-5 has come and gone.

I don't believe it has.....   I guess it won't hurt till wait till October or November and see if things happen that might let us know that Satan has been kicked out of heaven.

 

If ET's show up on the Wite House Lawn, we might suspect they are not our friends.