Guest shiloh357 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Just now, Tea Ess said: This particular case definitely seems to fit the definition: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. Then take it up with the guilty party instead of putting it on the rest of us, as if we are collectively responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruck1b Posted March 29, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 352 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Then take it up with the guilty party instead of putting it on the rest of us, as if we are collectively responsible. Hmmmmm, but do you apply the same standard to Muslims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Just now, ruck1b said: Hmmmmm, but do you apply the same standard to Muslims? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruck1b Posted March 29, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 352 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 Just now, shiloh357 said: Yes. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Ess Posted March 29, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 312 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1998 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, shiloh357 said: Then take it up with the guilty party instead of putting it on the rest of us, as if we are collectively responsible. Did I say you were? I think there's two main things to take away from this: 1) The most obvious is that this was a tragic attack that took the life of an American, and it should be treated accordingly. 2) On a broader scale, terrorism isn't just a "evil brown people from the Middle East" thing. Anyone is capable of being a terrorist, and white supremacy is still alive and well in the US. This should be a reminder that no collective group (white Americans, Muslims, LGBT people, Republicans, etc) should be judged by the actions of an extreme few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Just now, Tea Ess said: 2) On a broader scale, terrorism isn't just a "evil brown people from the Middle East" thing. Anyone is capable of being a terrorist, and white supremacy is still alive and well in the US. This should be a reminder that no collective group (white Americans, Muslims, LGBT people, Republicans, etc) should be judged by the actions of an extreme few. Really? 'Cause one Trump supporter, early in the campaign, punched one Clinton supporter and suddenly every time the rioters picked a fight at Trump rallies, Trump and his supporters were collectively blamed for the violence. And Trump supporters were labeled as White Supremacists and fascists, and Nazis for supporting Trump. And every gun owner is regularly demonized by the Left when one person goes and commits a gun crime. So for all of the self-righteous lectures that liberals give us about not judging entire groups, they do it all of the time. So frankly, that stuff rings pretty hollow with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Ess Posted March 29, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 312 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1998 Share Posted March 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Really? 'Cause one Trump supporter, early in the campaign, punched one Clinton supporter and suddenly every time the rioters picked a fight at Trump rallies, Trump and his supporters were collectively blamed for the violence. And Trump supporters were labeled as White Supremacists and fascists, and Nazis for supporting Trump. And every gun owner is regularly demonized by the Left when one person goes and commits a gun crime. So for all of the self-righteous lectures that liberals give us about not judging entire groups, they do it all of the time. So frankly, that stuff rings pretty hollow with me. Well, I have never characterized all Trump supporters or gun owners as those things, and I've never met someone who has done so either. I'm sure there are some liberals (and maybe even entire news sources) out there who think so, but they're wrong. It's almost as if... we shouldn't judge all liberals based on the words of a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted March 29, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 hour ago, MorningGlory said: No one in my family, nor I, ever did anything like you seem to think Americans of European descent are guilty of. Maybe you should explain your line of thinking. Hello if I may. (and by the way I am Irish too) I think the point ruck1b is trying to make is that there have been many acts of terrorism committed in this country by home grown Americans. But we seem to have all this fear of Muslims and make it seem like they are the only ones committing acts of terrorism, and by keeping them out we will be safe. I think that is the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Ess Posted March 29, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 312 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1998 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, LadyKay said: Hello if I may. (and by the way I am Irish too) I think the point ruck1b is trying to make is that there have been many acts of terrorism committed in this country by home grown Americans. But we seem to have all this fear of Muslims and make it seem like they are the only ones committing acts of terrorism, and by keeping them out we will be safe. I think that is the point. I think you hit the nail on the head here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tea Ess said: I think you hit the nail on the head here. Can you or anyone else name off homegrown American, non-Muslim terrorists? And I mean terrorists, not white supremacists or neo-Nazi groups. I mean actual terrorists and terrorist organizations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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