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The first horse and its rider is the USA and its

president respectively. I believe we all know that

the new president of the USA is Donald Trump. It

has been revealed to me that the 1st seal had

been opened since June 2015 when

Donald Trump mentioned his desire to run for

president (because God knows the future). I don't

want anyone to think that the rapture is still far

away (sixth seal) because I'm talking about the

1st seal. A similar passage to Revelation 6 is

Zechariah 6. In Zechariah 6 the 1st horse is the

red one (war, terrorism) and in Revelation the first

is the white horse. What this means is that both

will occur concurrently. The question is how do

we know when any of these periods start or end?

This is how- 1st horses of both run concurrently

but the white horse runs longer (See Zech. 6: 2,

3). What the white horse actually conquers is the

war and terrorism of the red horse. So, the red

horse actually ends during the reign of the white

horse (in relation to the US). So the length of the time of the red horse

is June 2015 to Jan. 20 2017. God told me that the length of the time of the red horse mirrors the time from the giving of this revelation till the rapture. This revelation came sometime in the month of November 2016. The red horse lasts 19 months.

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4 minutes ago, kenny2212 said:

The first horse and its rider is the USA and its

president respectively. I believe we all know that

the new president of the USA is Donald Trump. It

has been revealed to me that the 1st seal had

been opened since June 2015 when

Donald Trump mentioned his desire to run for

president (because God knows the future). I don't

want anyone to think that the rapture is still far

away (sixth seal) because I'm talking about the

1st seal. A similar passage to Revelation 6 is

Zechariah 6. In Zechariah 6 the 1st horse is the

red one (war, terrorism) and in Revelation the first

is the white horse. What this means is that both

will occur concurrently. The question is how do

we know when any of these periods start or end?

This is how- 1st horses of both run concurrently

but the white horse runs longer (See Zech. 6: 2,

3). What the white horse actually conquers is the

war and terrorism of the red horse. So, the red

horse actually ends during the reign of the white

horse (in relation to the US). So the length of the time of the red horse

is June 2015 to Jan. 20 2017. God told me that the length of the time of the red horse mirrors the time from the giving of this revelation till the rapture. This revelation came sometime in the month of November 2016. The red horse lasts 19 months.

I do not believe that any of the seals, bowls or judgments have taken place. I believe that everything that is in Revelation is still future.

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1 hour ago, missmuffet said:

I do not believe that any of the seals, bowls or judgments have taken place. I believe that everything that is in Revelation is still future.

Quite possible true,  very true.   And COOL thing is ,  no one can prove you wrong about this ..... < SMILE >

There's a lot of different 'fanciful' stories going around for the last what,  1300 years ?  < shrugs > No proof....

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So missmuffet when do you think the seals will happen? After the beginning of the final 7 years? Has to be before. Because of Rev. 6:12-17. Rev. 6:12-17 is the rapture. The rapture marks the beginning of the final 7 years. So if the 6th seal is the rapture and the rapture marks the beginning of the final 7 years, seals 1 to 5 come before the final 7 years.  

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Some people believe the four horsemen have already been unleashed and as a result, we have:

1. False prophets - Mohammed being number one bad guy

2. War- lots of that going around

3. Famine- lots of that going around

4. Plagues- lots of that going around

Some people believe the seals won't open until the 7 year peace treaty is opened.

Some people believe all this happened before 100 AD. 

Some people believe.........(fill in)

Stay tuned......

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You lost me when you said God told you....

He's told us all we need to know in the Bible already. No new Revelation is given.

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14 minutes ago, BacKaran said:

You lost me when you said God told you....

He's told us all we need to know in the Bible already. No new Revelation is given.

Amen and Amen.

The end of the story is known and has been known since John wrote Jesus' revelation to him.  The Bible in its entirety - borrowing a metaphor from science and thermodynamics - is a "closed system".  No new truths in.  No grounded truths out. That's the best way that I have ever heard it put.

God, in his timing and his business, put his word together - from the literal beginning to the literal end.  Finished.  Complete.  All that he intended for us to know.

We already know the whole story.  Are some characters specific identities unknown?  Yes.

And for anyone to claim that God "told them" to expound on scripture something that is new, prophetic, or cannot be found in scripture is dangerous.

There. Are. No. New. Revelations. Or. Prophecies.

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Correct just above

All that is told in scripture is already completed

Much has transpired, but there are things to come and they are recorded in scripture 

 

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2 hours ago, BacKaran said:

You lost me when you said God told you....

He's told us all we need to know in the Bible already. No new Revelation is given.

I cringe when I hear though words too. I always hope they mean from His word, but I have a feeling most people believe God is speaking to them in some other manner. I wish they would substitute "told" for another word.

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1 hour ago, Jayne said:

Amen and Amen.

The end of the story is known and has been known since John wrote Jesus' revelation to him.  The Bible in its entirety - borrowing a metaphor from science and thermodynamics - is a "closed system".  No new truths in.  No grounded truths out. That's the best way that I have ever heard it put.

God, in his timing and his business, put his word together - from the literal beginning to the literal end.  Finished.  Complete.  All that he intended for us to know.

We already know the whole story.  Are some characters specific identities unknown?  Yes.

And for anyone to claim that God "told them" to expound on scripture something that is new, prophetic, or cannot be found in scripture is dangerous.

There. Are. No. New. Revelations. Or. Prophecies.

Joseph Smith must be turning over in his grave reading this post.  Lol

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