gdemoss Posted April 7, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I need help understanding the roman catholic doctrine of immaculate conception. Please read below and answer the question. Please refrain from answering if you don't believe or are not roman catholic. Man was created, fell and subsequently all people born of their procreation are born after their fallen sinful image. Jesus, the lord from heaven, was in the form of God pre-existing the creation of man yet placed into the womb of Mary and therefore was sinless, untouched by the fall. Where did Mary come from if she was supposedly sinless? FOR CLAIRITY: THIS THREAD IS MEANT TO BE AN INVITATION FOR ME TO DIALOG WITH THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION THEORY. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DEBATING THE VALIDITY OF SAID DOCTRINE. Caps used so as to not be overlooked. Not yelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Mary was not sinless. Christ was born without a sin nature because the sin nature is passed down through the male and since Christ was created by the Holy Spirit in Mary, He was without sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted April 7, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 7, 2017 "Please refrain from answering if you don't believe or are not roman catholic." Am I reading this right Gary? You only want Catholics to respond or people who believe in the Immaculate Conception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted April 7, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 7, 2017 2 hours ago, gdemoss said: I need help understanding the roman catholic doctrine of immaculate conception. Please read below and answer the question. Please refrain from answering if you don't believe or are not roman catholic. Man was created, fell and subsequently all people born of their procreation are born after their fallen sinful image. Jesus, the lord from heaven, was in the form of God pre-existing the creation of man yet placed into the womb of Mary and therefore was sinless, untouched by the fall. Where did Mary come from if she was supposedly sinless? I believe the Catholics teach Mary also had the Holy Spirit for her father, like Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Noodle Posted April 7, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 573 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/27/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 7, 2017 They also teach that Mary saves as Jesus does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BacKaran Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 As a ex rcc, they teach a different Gospel and Jesus. It's a cult of massive deceptive proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teditis Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 As an ex-Catholic, I can say that they don't teach a different Gospel or Jesus. Nor do they claim her as someone who can "Save" anyone. To the OP, as I was taught, Mary was absolved of "original sin" for the express purpose that she was to be an appropriate vessel for a Sinless Jesus... it's not that she came from somewhere spectacular or had a lineage that was pure. I do think that this is speculative thinking on the part of the Catholic Church and leads to some wrong-headed ideas about Mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BacKaran Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 So in other words, if you're born again, you will understand this rcc false Gospel so you don't need to respond since you are discerning enough to tell a lie, the Truth and from a lie with lots of added little truths... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted April 7, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 7, 2017 3 hours ago, gdemoss said: I need help understanding the roman catholic doctrine of immaculate conception. ??? why??? that just allows more propaganda for those who don't know the BIBLE. (and no correction can be accepted against it; they are required to accept the "inspired" whatchamallits of the bishops in union with the head of the business..... THere are about (perhaps ) 1000 books of hundreds of pages each defining their practices concerning Mary , and they will go forever explaining it , (they have a 'famous' library/vault that is 54 miles long ... restricted access) even after it is shown from the BIBLE not to be true ! (from what I've seen on all the forums for many years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted April 7, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 7, 2017 4 hours ago, gdemoss said: I need help understanding the roman catholic doctrine of immaculate conception. Please read below and answer the question. Please refrain from answering if you don't believe or are not roman catholic. Man was created, fell and subsequently all people born of their procreation are born after their fallen sinful image. Jesus, the lord from heaven, was in the form of God pre-existing the creation of man yet placed into the womb of Mary and therefore was sinless, untouched by the fall. Where did Mary come from if she was supposedly sinless? The idea behind the immaculate conception (I started a thread on it the other day) is that Mary was retroactively cleaned from all sin by the blood of Christ at the moment of her conception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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