brakelite Posted July 1, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 977 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2017 On 27/06/2017 at 6:58 AM, Yowm said: I took it we are referring to the Good News which saves one's soul under the New Covenant. It would be great if those one or two verses did lay the basis for further knowledge of our redemption instead of many being strayed into another gospel of faith + works or what not. Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, (1Co 15:1-4) For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. (Eph 2:8-9) "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. (Joh 3:16-17) There will come a time when you will personally be aware that many many people, who believed every single word that you have quoted, are not in the kingdom when you fully expected them to be. People like this.... 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. or this.... 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. and these.... Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. I think we all know, or have known such people....not that I am condemning anyone,that is beyond my pay-grade, but it is clear that there is much moreto gaining eternal life than consent to just a few verses in scripture. Our experience, lifestyle, heart attitude, all have their place. I amnot suggesting that good works save us. But someone who believes in the message of the cross, but doesn't allow that message to affect any change in his life, is that one saved? A Christian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Aristotle Posted July 5, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 264 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 5, 2017 How many Gospels do you think there are to teach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 5, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Anonymous Aristotle said: How many Gospels do you think there are to teach? One true gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 5, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 John 3:16-18 Ephesians 2:8-10 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 Galatians 1:8-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Aristotle Posted July 5, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 264 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, JohnD said: One true gospel. And in your view that would be? Please be specific . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Aristotle Posted July 5, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 264 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Yowm said: One that saves since the Cross ... Summed up here... 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 NASBS [1] Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, [2] by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. [3] For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, [4] and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, Have you you studied the wording of that letter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 5, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 Old Testament prophetic echoes of the Gospel Deuteronomy 18:15-19 Isaiah 52:13 - 53:12 Jeremiah 31:31-34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 5, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anonymous Aristotle said: And in your view that would be? Please be specific . read my last two please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 5, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anonymous Aristotle said: Have you you studied the wording of that letter? Okay, I'll bite... What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Aristotle Posted July 5, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 264 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, JohnD said: read my last two please. I did. All scriptures you posted there were the old testament. Paul's epistles in majority in the new testament. And one account by that which is attributed to the Apostle that walked with Christ, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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