Wayne222 Posted April 26, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 476 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,559 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 7,637 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Davida said: I agree with you. I was just looking back upon the history as it was and as it was. I am glad for these Crusaders because the world would look like Iran without them. I agree with you. They were wiser then . Now we welcome Islam to take over and destroy our cultures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted April 27, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 27, 2017 55 minutes ago, Yowm said: IOW you disagree with Rome which says Peter was the first Pope? Yeah, Wayne is full of surprises today. Wait until this pope hears about this. I think he is going to remove Wayne from his inner circle. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted April 27, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 476 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,559 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 7,637 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Davida said: It's the Liberal pc way now. Who did invent the political correctness anyway? It just started with false guilt in the 60s. The Vietnam War and feminist also black rights. There is some truth to charges. Women should get same money if they do the same work. But people will use stuff , play victim to put others on defensive. Islam does that quite well. They will call someone a racist if they are oppose. The pc will shame anyone to win. Kind of satan's tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted April 27, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 476 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,559 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 7,637 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Yowm said: IOW you disagree with Rome which says Peter was the first Pope? I am not Catholic. In any case I don't agree with there history in that case. The church was founded on christ not peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted April 27, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 476 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,559 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 7,637 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Spock said: Yeah, Wayne is full of surprises today. Wait until this pope hears about this. I think he is going to remove Wayne from his inner circle. Haha Spock heh haw ha ha haw . My ribs are sore. I do like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted April 27, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 476 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,559 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 7,637 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Spock said: In a nutshell, that sounds about right. However, the Crusaders were not always honorable men, were they? They were known to wipe out entire Jewish communities on their way to the Holy Land. Tsk tsk Doesn't It sound like they were guilty of the same thing they were accusing the Muslims of doing wrong? Stuff like that made me not feel so lovey dovey when discussing them. In any army you always have atrocities. Not that it's condone. They did a good work otherwise no more western world today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted April 27, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Wayne222 said: In any army you always have atrocities. Not that it's condone. They did a good work otherwise no more western world today. The Crusaders did a good work? What did they do that was good? The Muslims still had control of the Mid East and imposed their will for hundreds of years after the few years the crusaders won back Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Judas Machabeus Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) On 2017-04-26 at 8:57 AM, Neighbor said: Well, one might seek a Roman Catholic resource and read what is declared there. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm And for another resource and point of view see Theodore Shoebat at http://shoebat.com/2013/09/21/constantine-create-catholic-church/ From my own perspective there is another issue; that being a universal or catholic church, and there being a RCC or Roman Catholic Church, the two not being the same thing. So as I read I do have to watch for descriptions of a catholic church versus the RCC, otherwise my prejudice ( I believe to be an informed prejudice ) against the popedom* causes me to miss points of excellent information and of interest. * The description borrowed from the writings and sermons of Charles Haddon Spurgeon My apologies for taking so long to get to your links. The Shoebat link was amazing. Just the facts (historical), no theology per say other than explaining why the groups where deemed heretics. Thank you for sharing. A very good read. Cheers and God Bless Edited April 29, 2017 by Judas Machabeus Changed a what to a why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted April 30, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 2,607 Days Won: 15 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/25/2017 at 9:01 PM, Judas Machabeus said: I asked a question in another thread about why a poster thought the Roman Catholic Church was started after a certain period. I was curious because generally it's either the time of the reformation or Constantine. And general with the Constantine assertion comes the assertion that he did it to mix paganism with Chritianity because he had to find jobs for all those out of work pagan priest because Christianity was the state religion now. Since I didn't want to derail that thread I thought I would create a new thread. What proof is there that Constantine created the Roman Catholic Church? The proof is he created Byzantine Church (Eastern Orthodoxy) see Eusebius The Hitory Church, last chapter. The Roman Catholic Church came out of Eastern Orthodox Church in 1054 A.D. during the Great Schism. Roman Catholicism is basically a Latinized and Europeanized Eastern Orthodoxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Judas Machabeus Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 38 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said: The proof is he created Byzantine Church (Eastern Orthodoxy) see Eusebius The Hitory Church, last chapter. The Roman Catholic Church came out of Eastern Orthodox Church in 1054 A.D. during the Great Schism. Roman Catholicism is basically a Latinized and Europeanized Eastern Orthodoxy. Your history is a bit off there. As for reading Eusebius The History of the Church.... there's ten books. Which last paragraph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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