The_Patriot21 Posted April 28, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,696 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,516 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted April 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Running Gator said: Well, that is a stupid federal law and needs to be challenged. This guy did that and his actions will hopefully get those laws looked at. Regardless of whether it's a good law or not, the fact remains it is a law, and had he done what he did on any airline the result would have remained the same. The mature thing for him to have done was to have peacefully left the airplane and then sued/tried to change the law. The way he did it was completely uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted April 28, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, The_Patriot2017 said: Regardless of whether it's a good law or not, the fact remains it is a law, and had he done what he did on any airline the result would have remained the same. The mature thing for him to have done was to have peacefully left the airplane and then sued/tried to change the law. The way he did it was completely uncalled for. It is called "civil disobedience" and there is a long, long history of it in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 28, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,786 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Running Gator said: Well, that is a stupid federal law and needs to be challenged. This guy did that and his actions will hopefully get those laws looked at. they should have thrown him in jail for putting the other passengers at risk..... you mention the 4.5 hour trip in a car.... well he could have made that trip himself and been hundreds of dollars better off.... true he may have gotten much more out of it, but no one here broke any laws except the doctor and it's a shame that he's the only one who profited from it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted April 28, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2017 16 minutes ago, other one said: they should have thrown him in jail for putting the other passengers at risk..... you mention the 4.5 hour trip in a car.... well he could have made that trip himself and been hundreds of dollars better off.... true he may have gotten much more out of it, but no one here broke any laws except the doctor and it's a shame that he's the only one who profited from it all. All airline passengers will benefit from it as it put into the spot light the insane practices of the airlines and of the equally crazy law that allows paying passengers to be bumped for the convenience of the airline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted April 28, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,696 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,516 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Running Gator said: It is called "civil disobedience" and there is a long, long history of it in this country. its called being a petty criminal and a child. If he had been singled out for his race, gender, or anything else, I would buy civil disobedience. As it was, he was picked at random to obey federal law. What he did was petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted April 28, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Churchmouse said: That would have cost them money they already had in their hands. All the airlines cares about is filling seat and charging fees. This is about a body who was taking up space they needed to fill, plain and simple. He irritated the powers that be, because he didn't say moo and waddle off the flying cattle car, so that they could save another flying cattle car from being delayed elsewhere. This is about their attitude, not his. I so agree. And they were forcing him to leave his wife on the plane. How about a passenger's luggage that's in the cargo hold? Do they delay the plane to search for it and get it off too? I'd bet they don't. I'm glad they had to settle this with him; airlines think they are royalty and passengers their vassals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 28, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Justice was served and I am glad. I hope he got what he wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted April 28, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2017 23 minutes ago, The_Patriot2017 said: its called being a petty criminal and a child. If he had been singled out for his race, gender, or anything else, I would buy civil disobedience. As it was, he was picked at random to obey federal law. What he did was petty. It is a federal law that needs to be changed, and one most did not know existed. Now they do and now congress is talking about changing it. He did a service to everyone that flys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted April 28, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,696 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,516 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Running Gator said: It is a federal law that needs to be changed, and one most did not know existed. Now they do and now congress is talking about changing it. He did a service to everyone that flys yes, now next time the airline needs to move crew around so as not to avoid flight delays, they wont be able to, and we will have horrendous delays while waiting on the crew to drive halfway across the country. Just so one guy, wont miss his flight. Yes, its definetly a law that needs changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemurchampagne Posted April 28, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 162 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 133 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/25/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2017 4 hours ago, The_Patriot2017 said: The airline did mess up when they overbooked...however, no excessive force was used. It wasn't even the airline's choice...they had to have that seat. He got chosen to leave...and asked to leave, and actually went with them initially then ran back into the plane to make a scene. At that point security had no choice but to physically remove him, as he was now a security risk. Federal law-not united airlines mandates that if you are asked to leave the plane you have to leave the plane. And if you refuse then physical force can be used to remove you. That's the law. This guy got away with it because in today's society people have no regard for the law, and only think about themselves, and they use social media to enable them to do what they want. Like for example this... social media posts this horrible story that united physically removed a guy just so one of their employees could fly for free. Nevermind the fact the guy was first asked nicely and refused. And nevermind the fact the "employee" who was flying wasn't there for pleasure, they were a flight crew member for another flight, and federal law demanded they get the seat so they could make the flight they were supposed to be working on. Had the airline not removed that person, that crew member wouldn't have made their flight, which means the plane they were supposed to working would have been delayed. Hence why united asked that guy to leave. No, turns out the flight was not overbooked. And excessive force is obvious in the video's passengers captured of this man being dragged from the plane. So too are his injuries indication of excessive force. There was no reason for this man to be assaulted in this way. The airline settled. That's an admission of guilt regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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