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9 minutes ago, The_Patriot2017 said:

yes, now next time the airline needs to move crew around so as not to avoid flight delays, they wont be able to, and we will have horrendous delays while waiting on the crew to drive halfway across the country. Just so one guy, wont miss his flight. Yes, its definetly a law that needs changed.

Or we will force the airlines to be more organized and have the right people in the right place.  no other industry is allowed to do such things to their customers.

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Just now, lemurchampagne said:

No, turns out the flight was not overbooked. And excessive force is obvious in the video's passengers captured of this man being dragged from the plane. So too are his injuries indication of excessive force. There was no reason for this man to be assaulted in this way. 
The airline settled. That's an admission of guilt regardless. 

the plane was overbooked, otherwise they would have never asked him to leave. The airlines, by nature overbook every flight because theres always a certain percentage of passengers that never shown up. And, had the airline not needed to move flight crew from point A, to point B, he would have never been asked to leave. If you actually go through the facts, the before and after and not just the small tidbit that social media spread around you will see that before anyone was asked, the offer went out to everyone on the plane for volunteers. No one volunteered so he was picked according to a computer program and asked to leave, to which he did initially-and then turned around and charged back on the fight, and fought off the security. It wasn't until that point that any force was used, and he brought it upon himself. Its like the whole thing in ferguson awhile back-if you dont want shot, dont attack the cops. You don't want dragged off the plane? dont fight security when asked to leave. theyre just doing their job and upholding federal law, the minute that guy turned around and charged back on that plane, he became a security risk. They did what they would do to anyone who had done such a thing, had the guy been a bomber, and they hadn't of done that, and everyone on that plane died, everyone would be going after the security guys do.

Thats why its important to look into the whole story, not just the sensationalized little tidbit you see on facebook, or the media portrays. Does the law need changed? maybe maybe not. But this wasnt the way to handle it.

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Just now, Running Gator said:

Or we will force the airlines to be more organized and have the right people in the right place.  no other industry is allowed to do such things to their customers.

dont like it? dont fly. thats the way i look at it.

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Just now, The_Patriot2017 said:

dont like it? dont fly. thats the way i look at it.

The way I look at it "don't like it, don't put up with it"

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1 minute ago, Running Gator said:

The way I look at it "don't like it, don't put up with it"

honestly first off, it wasnt even the airline that did it, it was TSA, complying with federal law, yet its the airline taking the heat for it. second, i wouldnt have any problem with it had it been the airline-they are a private enterprise and should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason they deem fit.  If that means that they want to give your seat to one of their employees...it means get your rear end off that airplane.

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4 minutes ago, The_Patriot2017 said:

honestly first off, it wasnt even the airline that did it, it was TSA, complying with federal law, yet its the airline taking the heat for it. second, i wouldnt have any problem with it had it been the airline-they are a private enterprise and should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason they deem fit.  If that means that they want to give your seat to one of their employees...it means get your rear end off that airplane.

Get rid of the Federal law that helps the private enterprise and I might agree with you

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7 minutes ago, The_Patriot2017 said:

the plane was overbooked, otherwise they would have never asked him to leave. The airlines, by nature overbook every flight because theres always a certain percentage of passengers that never shown up. And, had the airline not needed to move flight crew from point A, to point B, he would have never been asked to leave. If you actually go through the facts, the before and after and not just the small tidbit that social media spread around you will see that before anyone was asked, the offer went out to everyone on the plane for volunteers. No one volunteered so he was picked according to a computer program and asked to leave, to which he did initially-and then turned around and charged back on the fight, and fought off the security. It wasn't until that point that any force was used, and he brought it upon himself. Its like the whole thing in ferguson awhile back-if you dont want shot, dont attack the cops. You don't want dragged off the plane? dont fight security when asked to leave. theyre just doing their job and upholding federal law, the minute that guy turned around and charged back on that plane, he became a security risk. They did what they would do to anyone who had done such a thing, had the guy been a bomber, and they hadn't of done that, and everyone on that plane died, everyone would be going after the security guys do.

Thats why its important to look into the whole story, not just the sensationalized little tidbit you see on facebook, or the media portrays. Does the law need changed? maybe maybe not. But this wasnt the way to handle it.

I checked this site and this topic has been discussed at length. Including the fact that you would have read what was afforded in that prior discussion shortly after this United flight 3411 incident broke news. 

It is not in dispute. The plane was not overbooked. United Airlines says controversial flight was not overbooked; CEO apologizes again

Excessive force is evident when the passenger in question had his nose broken and lost two teeth due to police action. That is evidence of excessive force. Besides the fact there was no actual cause to ask this paying passenger to disembark the flight. Nor to ask any passengers to leave the plane that was not overbooked. All of this has been discussed in that prior thread. Why argue what is already in fact done with? It isn't going to change the facts to what may be preferred by those opposed to them. 

WEX LAW Excessive Force

Excessive force refers to force in excess of what a police officer reasonably believes is necessary.  A police officer may be held liable for using excessive force in an arrest, an investigatory stop, or other seizures.  A police officer may also be liable for not preventing another police officer from using excessive force.

Whether the police officer has used force in excess of what he reasonably believed necessary at the time of action is a factual issue to be determined by the jury

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did you miss the part where the guy ran back in the plane and refused to leave? there was no excessive force. the guy was in the wrong, security did its job. I mean what did you expect them to do at that point? give him a pony?

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10 minutes ago, The_Patriot2017 said:

did you miss the part where the guy ran back in the plane and refused to leave? there was no excessive force. the guy was in the wrong, security did its job. I mean what did you expect them to do at that point? give him a pony?

I think I thank God you're not airport police. 

 

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airport police did their job. once the guy ran back on the plane, he became a danger to the aircraft, the crew, and the passengers. they had no idea if the guy was going back for a laptop or a bomb, and they did their job. Had they done nothing and he was going back for a bomb, everyone would be asking "why didnt airport police do something?" fact of the matter is, the guy was a doctor. That means he had leverage, all he had to do was be an adult, walk off the plane, and then blast united on social media how his patients were being punished for Uniteds actions, etc etc. which, in todays social media world would have likely taken on like wildfire, given united the same public relations nightmere theyre in now, and gotten the policies changed, all without breaking any laws on his part, or getting his nose broken. As it is, he acted like a petty criminal, and then got rewarded for it. 

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