Jump to content
IGNORED

Oneness claims that John 14:10 states that Jesus is God the Father


Limey_Bob

Recommended Posts


  • Group:  Members
  • Followers:  2
  • Topic Count:  2
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  80
  • Content Per Day:  0.03
  • Reputation:   93
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  05/04/2017
  • Status:  Offline

I feel the same way about those who ignored the scriptures stating Jesus was God and then make the false claim there's no evidence to back up the fact that Jesus was God. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  18
  • Topic Count:  8
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  7,777
  • Content Per Day:  2.42
  • Reputation:   2,729
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  06/05/2015
  • Status:  Offline

1 minute ago, Fridaywinds said:

What's your definition of God?

These words were spoken to Israelites, or the Jews , and we have to see who was the God of the people to whom this word was spoken. 

Their God was the Lord God , so the Scriptures says , the people will say our God is with us, or the Lord God is with us .

The God is referring to is the Lord God of Israel.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Members
  • Followers:  2
  • Topic Count:  2
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  80
  • Content Per Day:  0.03
  • Reputation:   93
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  05/04/2017
  • Status:  Offline

2 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

These words were spoken to Israelites, or the Jews , and we have to see who was the God of the people to whom this word was spoken. 

Their God was the Lord God , so the Scriptures says , the people will say our God is with us, or the Lord God is with us .

The God is referring to is the Lord God of Israel.

 

Luke 1:68 makes that connection . 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  18
  • Topic Count:  8
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  7,777
  • Content Per Day:  2.42
  • Reputation:   2,729
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  06/05/2015
  • Status:  Offline

The Father of the Jews was Abraham, according to their Blood inheritance. 

They were the children of Abraham. 

They also were the children of the Lord God . 

So the Lord God was also their Father. 

Why the prophecy says, that the inheritance of those two Fathers is Temporary, it will come to an end. 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Advanced Member
  • Followers:  3
  • Topic Count:  27
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  327
  • Content Per Day:  0.13
  • Reputation:   172
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  03/30/2017
  • Status:  Offline

7 hours ago, Fridaywinds said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you believe that the Son of God is an eternal son, or do you deny that?

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  22
  • Topic Count:  1,294
  • Topics Per Day:  0.21
  • Content Count:  31,762
  • Content Per Day:  5.26
  • Reputation:   9,760
  • Days Won:  115
  • Joined:  09/14/2007
  • Status:  Offline

9 hours ago, Fridaywinds said:

Again? No. If they haven't gotten through already repeating the same behavior isn't going to change a thing in those who will not see. But, somewhere OneLight asked for proof of people who said those scriptures were false and denied that Jesus was God the Father. So thanks to the two of you for showing him the proof he asked for. 

God have mercy.

What I said, so people will know, is that I believe int eh Trinity.  There are many scriptures that show us this.  So there is no misunderstanding, here is a picture that shows what I believe.

Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-English.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  18
  • Topic Count:  8
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  7,777
  • Content Per Day:  2.42
  • Reputation:   2,729
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  06/05/2015
  • Status:  Offline

Isaiah 9:6 

When we say that the child who will be born from the woman, will be call the "Everlasting Father", and we understand that this make reference to Emanuel, the Lord God. 

But not to the Heavenly Father. 

Jesus aim is to indroduce us to the Heavenly Father. 

It's important when we use the word Father to understand the distinction between the Heavenly Father , and our patriarch Jesus Christ, who is our everlasting Father, and we are his children. 

The children of his sacrifice wash with his blood, redeemed with his blood. 

And if we the children of JESUS CHRIST and we are one with him, then we are one with the Heavenly Father, who is one with our Everlasting Father JESUS CHRIST. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  18
  • Topic Count:  8
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  7,777
  • Content Per Day:  2.42
  • Reputation:   2,729
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  06/05/2015
  • Status:  Offline

4 hours ago, OneLight said:

What I said, so people will know, is that I believe int eh Trinity.  There are many scriptures that show us this.  So there is no misunderstanding, here is a picture that shows what I believe.

Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-English.png

where is the everlasting Father. 

Please, The reference to the Scriptures that support with clarity, the message that is supposed to convey. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Worthy Ministers
  • Followers:  0
  • Topic Count:  897
  • Topics Per Day:  0.19
  • Content Count:  9,621
  • Content Per Day:  2.03
  • Reputation:   5,821
  • Days Won:  9
  • Joined:  04/07/2011
  • Status:  Offline

The UPC and Apostolic Church teach classic Sabellian modalism which is unbiblical.

My beloved and I used to attend the World of Pentecost Church in Austin Texas 25 years ago for the terrific music service.

You've all probably heard of the Philips Craig and Dean song "Revelation Song..." Philips is the son of the WPC (now renamed PromiseLand Church). This son heads up a branch of that church in another part of Austin. If you read their belief statement on their website they try to snooker people with wording to obfuscate their modalist beliefs.

Just checked, they rewrote what they had before. They once said "we believe in the one God who expresses himself in three ways..."

Now they just say the Father is God and Jesus is the flesh of God and the Holy Spirit is the indwelling part of God.

In other words, they know enough about their doctrine is at least troubling to potential donors to their treasury that they mask it through sneaky wording. 

I doubt they believe there is anything wrong with their modalism.

So, to try to hide what they sincerely believe is true is more low down than trying to pedal what they know is not true IMHO.

Just beware that compromise (even for a great music service) is compromise nevertheless. And eventually you will find even the lyrics become very modalistic.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Group:  Mars Hill
  • Followers:  7
  • Topic Count:  87
  • Topics Per Day:  0.03
  • Content Count:  3,795
  • Content Per Day:  1.36
  • Reputation:   6
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  07/30/2016
  • Status:  Offline

7 hours ago, OneLight said:

What I said, so people will know, is that I believe int eh Trinity.  There are many scriptures that show us this.  So there is no misunderstanding, here is a picture that shows what I believe.

Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-English.png

 

Your triangle is one very clear contradiction within itself.

You do realize this?

You dont realize this?

For example.....your triangle states that God is the Son, as long as you dont call God "The Father".

That math does not add up.

Another would be.....that your  triangle states that the Son is not the Holy Spirit.....However, each believer has the Holy Spirit, and this is known as "CHRIST IN YOU".....as in JESUS CHRIST in you, as in Jesus Christ the SON, is in you........yet, its the Holy Spirit.........or as another scripture states.....(Romans 8:1)...."Christ be IN you".

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

×
×
  • Create New...