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No doubt

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5 minutes ago, kenny2212 said:

Do you guys agree with wingnut that the rider of the 1st horse is Jesus? 

I do not agree. The rider of the first horse is the Antichrist. A false imitator of the true Christ.

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The rider of the first horse is the Lord conquering .... and to conquer more

The same rider of Revelation 19:11

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46 minutes ago, kenny2212 said:

Do you guys agree with wingnut that the rider of the 1st horse is Jesus? 

 

It's not agreeing with me, it is simply what scripture says.  If you disagree with some regarding the first resurrection, nothing you ever say can be right. ;)

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6 hours ago, Spock said:

Everything you said makes sense to me Rev Man.  Even the timing of the rapture- before Gods wrath is unleashed- makes perfect sense to me because the Bible says, "we will not experience His wrath..." 

when does His wrath begin?  Rev 6 tells us?  7th seal = trumpets and bowls.  Therefore, the rapture should take place b4 then.  I see the rapture in Rev 7:9-17 just before trumpets are unleashed in Rev 8. 

 

Technically the bible says we will not suffer His wrath, big difference between going through something and suffering something. ;)

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I don't agree either. Jesus doesn't need to be given any weapon.

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56 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

The rider of the first horse is the Lord conquering .... and to conquer more

The same rider of Revelation 19:11

Nope it is the Antichrist deceiving and doing what he knows best.

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1 hour ago, kenny2212 said:

Do you guys agree with wingnut that the rider of the 1st horse is Jesus? 

He makes an interesting point, but no.  

It doesn't make sense to me that Jesus, who is opening the scrolls, has himself in it.  Does it make sense to you?  And like I said, I see this happening AFTER his ascension to heaven.  Lastly, these are seal JUDGMENTS. Nothing good comes out of a judgement.  

This is how I see it. Not saying it is the Gospel and I do like how wing nut is using scripture to interpret scripture, but I think the rider on the white horse might be someone who initially was well loved and received, thus riding the white horse.  

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50 minutes ago, wingnut- said:

 

Technically the bible says we will not suffer His wrath, big difference between going through something and suffering something. ;)

The Bible tells us that the Church will not got through the seven year tribulation. All those who are genuinely saved will not suffer God's wrath.

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I see Jesus coming back on a white horse in Revelation 19:11. At the end of the seven year tribulation.

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