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I did some digging on the Book of Enoch and....it has way too many contradictions of Scripture to be read AS Scripture. 

https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/8576/why-is-the-book-of-enoch-not-regarded-as-canonical

 

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 Tertullian Quoting 1 Enoch 99:6-7

 

• Tertullian - On Idolatry - Chapter 4       (160-220 A.D.)

Enoch had preceded, predicting that the demons, and the spirits of the angelic apostates, would turn into idolatry all the elements, all the garniture of the universe, all things contained in the heaven, in the sea, in the earth, that they might be consecrated as God, in opposition to God. All things, therefore, does human error worship, except the Founder of all Himself. The images of those things are idols; the consecration of the images is idolatry. Whatever guilt idolatry incurs, must necessarily be imputed to every artificer of every idol. In short, the same Enoch fore-condemns in general menace both idol-worshippers and idol-makers together. And again: "I swear to you, sinners, that against the day of perdition of blood repentance is being prepared. You who serve stones, and you who make images of gold, and silver, and wood, and stones and clay, and serve phantoms, and demons, and spiritsin fanes, and all errors not according to knowledge, shall find no help from them "

• Tertullian - On Idolatry - Chapter 4       (160-220 A.D.)

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0302.htm

 

 

 

And again I swear to you, ye sinners, that sin is prepared for a day of unceasing bloodshed. And they who worship stones, and grave images of gold and silver and wood (and stone) and clay, and those who worship impure spirits and demons, and all kinds of idols not according to knowledge, shall get no manner of help from them. 

• 1 Enoch 99:6-7

http://reluctant-messenger.com/book_of_enoch.htm

 

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On 12/11/2017 at 12:25 AM, Sister said:
 
I am speaking to anyone who's interested.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Here's another one;

 

 

Lets see what Enoch says;

[Chapter 1]

 

 

 

4 And the eternal God will tread upon the earth, (even) on Mount Sinai,

 

[And appear from His camp]

 

And appear in the strength of His might from the heaven of heavens.

 

 

5 And all shall be smitten with fear

 

And the Watchers shall quake,

 

And great fear and trembling shall seize them unto the ends of the earth.

 

 

6 And the high mountains shall be shaken,

 

And the high hills shall be made low,

 

And shall melt like wax before the flame

 

 

7 And the earth shall be wholly rent in sunder,

 

And all that is upon the earth shall perish,

 

And there shall be a judgement upon all (men).

 

 

8 But with the righteous He will make peace.

 

 

And will protect the elect,

 

And mercy shall be upon them.

 

 

And they shall all belong to God,

 

And they shall be prospered,

 

And they shall all be blessed.

 

 

And He will help them all,

 

And light shall appear unto them,

 

And He will make peace with them'.

 

 

The author here does not understand when he said Jesus made peace at the cross?

Peace in our hearts yes, reconciliation, but did the apostles have peace when they were hunted, put in prison, beaten, falsely accused, mocked and killed?

Do we Christians have peace when this world oppresses us, when there is no equity left on earth, ...unrighteousness all around, wars, famines, terrorism, uprisings, rebellion, now brother against brother...etc etc...  Tell me if it's peaceful any place on this earth?

So if Christ makes peace with "the righteous and elect" (144K sealed), then doesn't that mean that they will be delivered from the oppressor?  They will not be touched, but protected as Enoch states?  You never heard this before, I know.  It is a strange song (doctrine) to many, because the truth is blocked from the flock, but not the small flock.

 Revelation 9:1   And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

  Revelation 9:2   And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

  Revelation 9:3   And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

  Revelation 9:4   And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

 

So if they can only harm those without the seal of God, then those "with the seal" must still be around?  Makes sense.

 Revelation 7:3   Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

 
Revelation 7:4   And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed .....an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
 
He will help them all (144K).  They will finally see that light shine on them, and know the Lord is with them.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Sister, do you think it is a literal 144K? 

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Hello ForhisGlory

Yes, I think that number is literal and exact, because they are chosen from the beginning.  Why that number 144K, I don't know but it could be 10% of all the saints.  The firstfruits are normally 10% of the crop harvested first.  The choice pick.  That's only my guess.

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More from Tertullian:

• Tertullian - On the Apparel of Women - Book 2 - Chapter 10

But, if the self-same angels who disclosed both the material substances of this kind and their charms— of gold, I mean, and lustrous stones— and taught men how to work them, and by and by instructed them, among their other (instructions), in (the virtues of) eyelid-powder and the dyeings of fleeces, have been condemned by God, As Enoch Tells Us, how shall we please God while we joy in the things of those (angles) who, on these accounts, have provoked the anger and the vengeance of God?

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0402.htm

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Church Father Origen talking about The Book of Enoch:

 

• Origen - de Principiis - Book 1 - Chapter 3 - Section 3     (185-254 A.D.)

That all things were created by God, and that there is no creature which exists but has derived from Him its being, is established from many declarations of Scripture; those assertions being refuted and rejected which are falsely alleged by some respecting the existence either of a matter co-eternal with God, or of unbegotten souls, in which they would have it that God implanted not so much the power of existence, as equality and order. For even in that little treatise called The Pastor or Angel of Repentance, composed by Hennas, we have the following: "First of all, believe that there is one God who created and arranged all things; who, when nothing formerly existed, caused all things to be; who Himself contains all things, but Himself is contained by none." And In The Book Of Enoch Also We Have Similar Descriptions.

http://ecmarsh.com/fathers/anf/ANF-04/anf04-45.htm#P6244_1101010

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Quote from Church Father Anatolius:

• Anatolius - (Third Century)- Ante Nicene Fathers - Book 6 - Section 5

But I shall pass on without demanding such copious demonstrations (on subjects ) from which the veil of the Mosaic law has been removed; for now it remains for us with unveiled face to behold ever as in a glass Christ Himself and the doctrines and sufferings of Christ. But that the first month among the Hebrews is about the equinox, Is Clearly Shown Also By What Is Taught In The Book Of Enoch.

 

http://ecmarsh.com/fathers/anf/ANF-06/anf06-57.htm#P2468_688069

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2 hours ago, ForHisGlory37 said:

Sister, do you think it is a literal 144K? 

Me chiming in here. Take a quick thought about this. 12k per tribe. Virgin people all 'men'. 

Today it would be hard to find 1200 let alone 144k. So how about this for an idea; remembering that Yeshua was addressing the Incursion of Gen 6 as well as salvation for mankind, but He also was redeeming the whole creation - a creation marred MORE by angelic disobedience than anything humans ever did. So these VIRGINS will do the OPPOSITE of what the fallen angels did and do a work of Yeshua's redemption.

They might just be a specially chosen rank of angels. Yahweh knows, but just think on it.

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11 hours ago, Cobalt1959 said:

The only component of Jesus' Kingdom than mankind is told to concern themselves with is mankind.  Not angels or anything else.

Sorry Sir, but that is not quite correct. The whole trib thing is based on Gabriel's words. And if that Daniel trib thing is not a totally erroneous spin, well I am speechless!

I trust that Yahweh will open all our eyes to the UNSEEN REAL of our existence.

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12 hours ago, Yowm said:

No matter. God's Word is God's Word and is not to be adulterated as happened in the Fall.

And the fall was what Sir? Did you not read of the Gen 6 incursion? Please understand that what the angels did was far, far more abhorrent to Yahweh than the disobedience of mere Humans. That is why He continually uses mere humans to banish and oppose angelic forces. He cocks a snoot at the fallen ones and their works continually.
Yahweh is not mocked. he uses the lowly to put to flight the 'high' and disobedient former members of His Council.

The whole cosmos was stained by those that Yah had put in control. Yeshua came to set the cosmos RIGHT. He also came to save mankind, His Love.

Take a look at Legion and how he addressed Yeshua. "Son of the Most High God".
And that territory was NOT Israel. This is a very revealing verse. It denotes Yeshua's true position and Godhead.
Yeshua came to reconcile and reclaim all of creation, man included. But we must not think for a moment too highly of ourselves when it comes to Yahweh and His plans.

 

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