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11 minutes ago, Davida said:

What is labelling others as naïve, ignorant and arrogant called?  

That which will answer to God.

For arguing their prejudice knows the mind of the eternal through that lens. 

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2 minutes ago, Davida said:

So? it's ok to label others "naïve, ignorant and arrogant"?

"So?" 

Fascinating. 

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10 minutes ago, Davida said:

So? it's ok to label others "naïve, ignorant and arrogant"?

You still haven't answered my question davida.  What do you call Catholics who disagree with you regarding catholic doctrines? 

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with calling someone naive, ignorant, or arrogant?  That is not labeling, but rather showing them where they have strayed off the path?

naive- you haven't a clue

ignorant- you need to study more

arrogant- you need not to be so condescending.

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2 hours ago, Happinessity said:

For some reason the search page of over 1,100 results won't post the full link so that I can cut and paste. But if you search all forum for "women pastors" you'll find plenty of posts.I posted a copy of the first search page being the link to search results doesn't show in the browser window.  

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    Happinessity replied to creativemechanic's topic in General Discussion

    ...Interesting that a topic of misogyny has a man introducing the topic ofwomen being unfit to pastor due to their gender. That's not misogyny necessarily though misogyny can be a component on an individual basis. It is however, a gender prejudice. Especially when neither Jesus nor God said that wome...
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    Wolf Bridges replied to creativemechanic's topic in General Discussion

    ...People can say that claimingwomen aren't fit for thepastors seat, an example from this thread, is misogyny. When that can be the underlying motive in someone who says that, it isn't actually what the embodies the meaning of the word misogyny itself.
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    worthy replied to creativemechanic's topic in General Discussion

    ...but why choosewomenpastors? We all know its a huge topic of debate.
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    Davida replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion

    How many threads has this been debated in?? you know what I will say to you, we've done this dance before. Take it up with the Word of God if you disagree. I'm too tired to take time to type words that are just a repeat from other threads & it will just be ignored by those that will make excuses to...
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    daughterofGrace replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion

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    Davida replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion

    Ifwomen were to have the Exact same role as a men as far as Teaching , Pastoring then why then didn't Jesus pick 6women to be His disciples? Why not 2 or 1 even? The Jewish culture at the time would not have held Him back if that was HIS desire, for He is the Son of God, Jesus could have appointe...
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    JohnD replied to Annette's question in Worthy Q & A

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    Willa replied to Annette's question in Worthy Q & A

    I agree thatwomen can teach young boys, girls andwomen. We have male leaders for middle and high school, and it is needed because middle school boys can be disruptive. The boys need a male example at this time, and many don't have one at home. I think a couple in leadership is optimal. S...
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    lemurchampagne replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion

    ...Women had a very subservient role in the time of Christ. Jesus flew in the face of that and hadwomen in his company of Apostles. Thewomen traveled with him , thewomen were at the foot of the cross when he died. Andwomen carried forth the ministry after he departed. Pastor doesn't appear i...
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    Behold posted a topic in General Discussion

    ...do you have your point of view about "womenPastors"? im aware of Paul's scriptures about "" teachers, bishops, and "silence in the church" just like you are, but, what is your POV about it, as everyone has one, ive noticed. MIne is......just as soon as a woman can become the "Husband of...
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    lemurchampagne replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion

    ...The argument that Paul is speaking of allwomen is a misunderstanding of scripture and culture of the time. Paul was speaking to one church, not the universal church. It doesn't follow that Paul would say that we are all one in Christ and there is no division. And then later create division b...
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    Spock replied to Heavenunlimited's topic in General Discussion

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    nebula replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion

    ...it could be argued that thewomen who followed Him were disciples as well. 2. Where does the Bible saywomen are not to be "pastors"? Put the word "pastor" in a Bible search, and let me know how many times you even see the word "pastor" and what these verses imply is the job of a pastor!...
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    shiloh357 replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion

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    Riccardo replied to Heavenunlimited's topic in General Discussion

    ...As forwomenpastors once again don't read into something that Jesus did not say as an affirmative. How big would the Bible have to be if that were the case. God Bless brother
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    Neighbor replied to creativemechanic's topic in General Discussion

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    RustyAngeL replied to Annette's question in Worthy Q & A

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    lemurchampagne replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion

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    missmuffet replied to Annette's question in Worthy Q & A

    The Bible tells us thatwomen should not bePastors. Although they can take a teaching roll in the Church. 1 Timothy 2:11-14

None of these posts says women cannot work in ministry.  Some say they cannot hold specific offices, but never a blanket statement like you claim.

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3 minutes ago, OneLight said:

None of these posts says women cannot work in ministry.  Some say they cannot hold specific offices, but never a blanket statement like you claim.

Blanket statement? I refuted Running Gators claim on first page and his statement about women pastors. And from there as it progressed to that of women being called in service to God. Which includes women pastors. Therefore, you're wrong about the content of those posts in the link I afforded using the keyword search here to find threads wherein women pastors have been the topic, "women pastors". 

And those results show there is opposition to women being called in service as pastors by God. 

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This thread is not about women pastors.

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4 minutes ago, worthy said:

This thread is not about women pastors.

That is correct. It is about misogyny. Which can be a factor in those strongly opposed to women being pastors. 

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3 minutes ago, Happinessity said:

That is correct. It is about misogyny. Which can be a factor in those strongly opposed to women being pastors. 

We had already decided to not use that as an example though. 

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It is human preference that deems human prejudice against women pastors as capable of speaking for God when claiming God would never call a woman to preach. Which is what is happening when someone tries to use Pauline letters to put forth that argument. And that then implicates Paul as duplicitous when he at one point said we are all one in Christ Jesus, that there is no separation, no men, no woman, we are all one. To then use Paul's letters about women being silent in church, etc.... as proof Paul is saying God told him to tell us women aren't to serve as pastors because God said so is directly refuting the prior all one in Christ statement God gave Paul. 

Peoples prejudice against women pastors is able to keep them from going to a church where a woman is pastor. It shouldn't dare think to speak for God as if he's in accord with that prejudice. Because it doesn't make sense that God would say we're all one in his son Jesus, and then say, but we're separated by gender when it comes to delivering the message of his son to the world. 

That's simply not true. 

 

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On 5/14/2017 at 1:38 PM, OneLight said:

Scripture shows us who can and cannot be leaders in the church.  If you disagree with what is said, you are calling the writers of scripture naive and ignorant and arrogant.  You realize this, don't you?

 

4 hours ago, Happinessity said:

No, I'm calling the people who think to interpolate the scriptures to say women can't be called to service by God, when scriptures show that is not the case, naive, ignorant, and arrogant. And prideful thinking their ego's know more than does God. As if God would deliver the message that we're all one in Christ and then say, but because we're women he'd never see us fit to preach his word. Speaking for God in a way that denotes prejudice is far worse than naive. 

You realize this, don't you?

 

3 hours ago, OneLight said:

Can you show me where anyone on this site ever said that women cannot be called into service by God? 

 

46 minutes ago, OneLight said:

None of these posts says women cannot work in ministry.  Some say they cannot hold specific offices, but never a blanket statement like you claim.

 

40 minutes ago, Happinessity said:

Blanket statement? I refuted Running Gators claim on first page and his statement about women pastors. And from there as it progressed to that of women being called in service to God. Which includes women pastors. Therefore, you're wrong about the content of those posts in the link I afforded using the keyword search here to find threads wherein women pastors have been the topic, "women pastors". 

And those results show there is opposition to women being called in service as pastors by God. 

I placed in bold and underlined the blanket statement.  From that point, I read that you were talking about all services and not any specific service, which is why I said ti was a blanket statement. 

As for certain official positions, scripture speaks for itself.

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