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On 16/07/2017 at 4:49 AM, Yowm said:

Since, according to Judas, 'no one knows the time one must spend in purgatory', then who knows when the 'prayers and alms' by one's friends and relatives are to cease and the debt has been paid?

That unknowable factor is the brilliance of the scheme, for whatever church devised it, continues to be enriched by the monies pouring into it, which, along with other such superstitions and lies, goes a long way in explaining the wealth of the RCC, and the selfish opulence which the rulers enjoy, particularly those  of the late middle ages,  giving rise to gross sin and wickedness which in part convinced Luther when visiting Rome, to exclaim, "No one can imagine, what sins and infamous actions are committed in Rome; they must be seen and heard to be believed. Thus they are in the habit of saying, 'If there is a hell, Rome is built over it: it is an abyss whence issues every kind of sin.'" D'Aubigne, History of the Reformation V2 ch 6.

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