Running Gator Posted May 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, MorningGlory said: They are not accusations; they are OPINIONS. And, just like you, I am entitled to them. Saying facts are false is not an opinion, it is an accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted May 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.12 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Running Gator said: Saying facts are false is not an opinion, it is an accusation. So is calling me dishonest. Talk about dishonest; how about deleting a post where you call someone a name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted May 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, MorningGlory said: So is calling me dishonest. Well, one of us is being dishonest. Either I made up the fact that we are in the top 15 per capita for rapes in all the world and that a judge gave a rapist a 45 day sentence and that the people in power during the Bayor rape episodes have all pretty much found new jobs at other universities doing the same thing they were at Baylor. So, either I made all those things up or you are wrong in telling me they are false. Which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, Running Gator said: But it is part of our culture, that is what you are missing. There is something about our culture that makes people think it is ok to rape a woman behind a dumpster, and for someone to record it while it it happening. Total garbage. There is nothing in our culture that says it's okay. Quote And it is something about our culture that makes the judge give the rapist 3 months in prison. No, he is just a bad judge and no one thought what the judge did was okay. Quote It is something about our culture that makes a judge give a rapist 45 days because the girl was not a virgin prior to the rape. There is something about our culture that allows a major university use rape as a recruiting tool, and for those in charge while it was happening to all have jobs at other schools. No, there is nothing in our culture that drives people to do such things, or approves of it. You might find a weird sector of our nation, but American culture does promote or approve of such things. Quote In our culture a trilogy about a man who likes to hurt women for sexual gratification set all sorts of records in sales and for a movie about the same thing to make more than 160 million dollars at the box office. $160 million? That's not very much, really. Lord of the Rings grossed $3Billion and other movies have made far, far more than $160 million. So it is really not that much a part of our culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, Badjao33 said: When a country has an equal or greater per capita rate of violent (often gruesome) crimes, sexual abuse, murders, child rapes, domestic violence, etc. than most other countries on the planet, I don't see how its citizens can judge or condemn any other country, group, religion, or culture for doing the same. It comes across as being very hypocritical. No, it's not hypocritical. Hypocrisy would be if we justified it happening in the US, but condemned the same thing in Islam. Hypocrisy is when you justify in yourself the very thing you condemn in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted May 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Badjao33 said: When a country has an equal or greater per capita rate of violent (often gruesome) crimes, sexual abuse, murders, child rapes, domestic violence, etc. than most other countries on the planet, I don't see how its citizens can judge or condemn any other country, group, religion, or culture for doing the same. It comes across as being very hypocritical. Yes it does. We have no moral high ground in this area, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted May 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Total garbage. There is nothing in our culture that says it's okay. No, he is just a bad judge and no one thought what the judge did was okay. No, there is nothing in our culture that drives people to do such things, or approves of it. You might find a weird sector of our nation, but American culture does promote or approve of such things. $160 million? That's not very much, really. Lord of the Rings grossed $3Billion and other movies have made far, far more than $160 million. So it is really not that much a part of our culture. What then is the explanation then for why rape is such a prevalent part of our society? Why is it that more than 20% of the women in our country have been raped if it is not a part of our culture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted May 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted May 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.70 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2017 http://www.businessinsider.com/lawsuit-accuses-baylor-football-program-rape-2017-1 The report says the bombshell lawsuit details a "culture of sexual violence" in the football program, alleging the school used a "show 'em a good time" policy to recruit players. The lawsuit alleges that 31 football players committed "52 acts of rape," including five gang rapes, between 2011 and 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted May 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Badjao33 said: No, it's true. Women are getting murdered, tortured, mutilated, and raped daily in the US. Often by their spouses or someone they are in a relationship with. There are also horrendous crimes against children often committed by relatives taking place daily and there are tens of thousands of children forced into sex trafficking each year. As for comparing crime rates between the US and Turkey, there really is no comparison. The US is far more violent and there are far more criminals in the US. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Turkey/United-States/Crime Why don't we compare your country to the US instead of Turkey? http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Philippines/United-States/Crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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