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7 minutes ago, Wolf Bridges said:

It's sad that ISIS would be defended in a Christian forum. And that their evil dismissed as something made up by the press and not actually true

It is a true statement! And your post remains posted here in a quote so that it cannot be altered now that you've been confronted. ISIS is demonic! And no one defends that.

Thousands of Americans were slaughtered by Islam extremists in 2001 here in America. And while there are those here who openly hate America , someone who openly defends ISIS should be identified! 

It's sad that you chose the enemy of God to champion on a Christian forum. 

 

I have no clue what you are getting at here. Where have I ever defended ISIS or their atrocities? Which post are you talking about that can not be altered that proves this? How in the world can you say I and championing an enemy of God on this forum? 

Please give some more information, because I am blown away right now by these accusations you are making against me. 

Edited by Badjao33

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1 hour ago, PlanetChee said:

Why indeed. And yet, there you are doing just that. Why? 

 

Forgive her, she knows not what she does. The true heart will draw its enemies. Stay safe little one. 

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@Wolf Bridges and @Badjao33, I think that you two need to resolve this thing quickly.

It's unfair to attribute things like supporting ISIS on a brother. And it's equally egregious

to actually defend ISIS' actions as anything but sheer evil.

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23 minutes ago, Abby-Joy said:

Ah! I see... I apologize, Davida ... I am in agreement that (I'm not sure how to say it)  ...what I know (not from a news source, but from real life people in the religion, as well as persecuted Christians) is that not all Muslims are violent.  There are radical Muslims, yes ... and these camps that produce ISIS use Islam as a front.  It is a radical group.  Please don't dissect what I'm saying, as I am probably still not coming across very clear.  I'm a bit preoccupied, pulled in a few different directions atm...

BBL ... the debate thing is not my thing... I would rather communicate from the heart...

OK, acknowledged Abby. But No one said that All Muslims are violent, that is elementary.  That has nothing to do with this and is just an empty talking point used by ignorant media and repeated ad nauseum by those who don't delve into researching the facts.

Everything ISIS does they back it up with Islamic scripture, it is not a cult that has hijacked Islam. It is Headed by an Islamic Scholar for goodness sake. Every beheading and Savage murder they back up with Islamic scripture. The Facts and  not opinion. Do not even bother with trying to respond that scripture can be misinterpreted until YOU yourself have taken months to do your own research by reading  the Koran, and study the Hadiths. Stick with Facts Abby not opinions you've heard.

 

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1 minute ago, Teditis said:

@Wolf Bridges and @Badjao33, I think that you two need to resolve this thing quickly.

It's unfair to attribute things like supporting ISIS on a brother. And it's equally egregious

to actually defend ISIS' actions as anything but sheer evil.

It's resolved as far as I'm concerned. Now it is up to the one's I reported them to. 

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3 minutes ago, Wolf Bridges said:

Forgive her, she knows not what she does. The true heart will draw its enemies. Stay safe little one. 

Excuse me? oh pahleeze.

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23 minutes ago, Wolf Bridges said:

Forgive her, she knows not what she does. The true heart will draw its enemies. Stay safe little one. 

I did. And I prayed for her as soon as I read the post. And thank you for your safe blessing. May God keep you safe as well. 

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1 hour ago, Teditis said:

@Wolf Bridges and @Badjao33, I think that you two need to resolve this thing quickly.

It's unfair to attribute things like supporting ISIS on a brother. And it's equally egregious

to actually defend ISIS' actions as anything but sheer evil.

I find it strange that @Wolf Bridges or anyone would come to the conclusion that I defend ISIS actions as anything less than evil based on what is written in this thread. I know terrorism first hand and I have had people I know die as a result of terrorism here in Mindanao. I was within site of a bombing that took place here in Davao last September that killed 15 and injured dozens more. Ironically, part of my ministry is trying to prevent young people here from joining terrorist groups by encouraging them to stay in school and teaching them that God (Regardless of their religious affiliation) does not approve of terrorist activities. 

In 2013 some members of the people group I work with were offered 10,000 pesos (Just $200) and a weapon to launch an attack in Zamboanga City. That was all it took to convince some of them to take up arms. Hundreds died and tens of thousands were left homeless following that attack with more than 150 from the people group I work with dying from disease in the months that followed. I have seen the suffering that terrorism causes first hand. 

A lot of people join these extremist groups out of desperation. $200 may not sound like a lot, but that is more than most people in the Sulu region of Mindanao make in six months. It is easy for these types of groups to recruit people to join their ranks not only here, but anywhere where there is poverty and lack of opportunity. How pointing  out that financial gain rather than religion is a major factor in why people decide to join ISIS made me a supporter of them, I will never know. 

The one thing this thread did was show how defensive and angry people become when their religion is challenged. I did make several posts about how there are atrocities being carried out in the name of Christianity in this thread, and angry responses are what followed.

As was pointed out, this is a Christian forum. But how would a Muslim feel if they happened across this thread or another thread similar to this? They would no doubt be hurt at some of the posts being made that condemn their religion and its followers.  They would take this as a personal insult. There are other threads on this forum that are far worse, but if we are trying to reach the lost, we shouldn't be slandering the faith of those we hope to reach on a public forum that is supposed to represent the love and compassion of Jesus Christ. By doing so, a Muslim who may be coming to this forum to seek answers about Christianity would certainly be turned away by some of the things Christians are saying about them in some of the threads. 

If this forum is to be used to bring people closer to Christ in addition to allowing brothers and sister from around the world to study, then we should limit the amount of bashing we direct at unbelievers and their faiths regardless of our opinions of them. It is also hypocritical for Christians to be throwing stones at Islam when there are groups out there committing the same evil crimes against others in the name of Christianity. I am not equating the two religions in saying that, I am only pointing out that the pendulum swings both ways.

In parts of India for example, Christianity is viewed in much the same way as many westerners view Islam. They view Christianity as a barbaric, backward religion. They claim Christianity is being spread by the sword and that conquering their lands to create a Christian nation. The sad thing is that these Christian extremist groups are being supported and funded by American churches. 

The point I am trying to make is that the Church needs to weed out a lot of its own problems before it even thinks it has the right to condemn the rest of the world for theirs. But even then, it's not our place to condemn anyone, that is God's place. Our role is to love God, love others, share the Good News, and show people of all backgrounds, including our enemies, the same compassion that Jesus showed us.  

I apologize to anyone who may have taken my posts in this thread the wrong way, that was never my intention. I assure you that you would be hard pressed to find someone who despises the evil actions of ISIS and groups like them more than I do. 

 



 

Edited by Badjao33

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1 hour ago, PlanetChee said:

I did. And I prayed for her as soon as I read the post. And thank you for your safe blessing. May God keep you safe as well. 

Keep them, I don't want anything from you - seriously.

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2 hours ago, Davida said:

Keep them, I don't want anything from you - seriously.

It isn't your call. Why are you so angry? 

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