Pudgenik Posted June 17, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 616 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 155 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Yowm said: You first challenged my post with this... So you are the one who first said creation is meaningless, I have been proving otherwise. Talk about twisting one's words. How do you get that i said creation is meaningless out of that post? It was only a statement about the fact that God created both time and space And that time, being Eternal God and space, it wasnt created yet has no meaning to Him. I was only talking about God nothing else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudgenik Posted June 17, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 616 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 155 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Pudgenik said: How do you get that i said creation is meaningless out of that post? It was only a statement about the fact that God created both time and space And that time, being Eternal God and space, it wasnt created yet has no meaning to Him. I was only talking about God nothing else Peace brother, i have to go do some shopping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted June 25, 2017 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted June 25, 2017 "Where did God come from" is very non sequitur. It implies that God is subject to time, space and matter. He CREATED these things. The man who designed the computer is not IN the computer running around but is OUTSIDE of the computer. God is CAUSE, he is not EFFECT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted June 25, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.12 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 25, 2017 On 5/27/2017 at 5:16 PM, kwikphilly said: I'm just jumping out of my chair with Joy.....isn't it just FANTASTIC to see one after the other after the other after the other...."Know whatchya know" with Blessed Assurance by Divine Revelation!!!! Oh GLORY to GOD MOST HIGH!!!!!! The GREAT I AM............... Amen, Kwik! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted June 25, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 306 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,130 Content Per Day: 4.64 Reputation: 27,805 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 25, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 25, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 899 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,634 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,828 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 25, 2017 On 5/22/2017 at 4:01 PM, eugenelester said: It seems like a very simple question and every believer should know an easy answer on it. But if we google a little bit and read the answers of the Christians and the contrarguments of atheists it shows that everything is not so simple, clear and easy.That’s why I have a desire to write my own variant of the answer.Where did God come from? In addition to my prior response let me say this. The first and second Laws of thermodynamics militate against the existence of anything (presuming everything started from nothing). The universe and everything in it are subject to these laws of physics (meaning nothing in it could be eternal or have come into existence from nothing on its own). The fact that we are here to observe the universe and all that is in it (which is certainly here) tells you someONE with intelligence-- evidenced by the deliberate design of all things-- who is greater than the universe itself and the laws of physics-- who is able to create something from nothing-- is HIMself the eternal factor of existence. Something or someone has to be eternal for anything to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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