Justice_League Posted June 13, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 112 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/23/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2017 http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06/13_alabama_counties_had_85_per.html 85%! That is a pretty staggering number! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted June 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, Justice_League said: http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06/13_alabama_counties_had_85_per.html 85%! That is a pretty staggering number! Yes, I actually read this on some news site I was on. It's not necessarily that people are lazy, it's the act of forcing them to be responsible and that's better for them AND the taxpayer. It's a win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice_League Posted June 13, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 112 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/23/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, MorningGlory said: Yes, I actually read this on some news site I was on. It's not necessarily that people are lazy, it's the act of forcing them to be responsible and that's better for them AND the taxpayer. It's a win win. I agree... though there's plenty of laziness and outright abuse of the system too. But I think it can help break a cycle in some cases... I feel for the children who have been brought up in households where hard work wasn't valued or modeled for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted June 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, Justice_League said: I agree... though there's plenty of laziness and outright abuse of the system too. But I think it can help break a cycle in some cases... I feel for the children who have been brought up in households where hard work wasn't valued or modeled for them. I have some in my own family, not immediate but extended. My kids were raised to work...and all three of them do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2017 53 minutes ago, MorningGlory said: Yes, I actually read this on some news site I was on. It's not necessarily that people are lazy, it's the act of forcing them to be responsible and that's better for them AND the taxpayer. It's a win win. If people are legitimately able to work they should work. Too many people are working the system and are cheating.This is making it more difficult for those who are legitimately disabled. Sometimes a person is laid off from their job and they are eligible for food stamps or EBT for awhile. There is a rise in the homeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 13, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,785 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2017 We've had that for a while. It did help. I'm told that here in Oklahoma the average time for people to be on food stamps is 18 months. I'm not sure that includes elderly people who live only on social security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted June 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 hours ago, other one said: We've had that for a while. It did help. I'm told that here in Oklahoma the average time for people to be on food stamps is 18 months. I'm not sure that includes elderly people who live only on social security. I was laid off. I did not qualify for food stamps because I was given a really nice severance package when I left from my employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice_League Posted June 13, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 112 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/23/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Davida said: It is staggering. These free handouts seem to bring out the worst in some people and bring out too many that will try to rip off the system. The government assistance given in the past was called "relief" it was supposed to be to give the family relief for a short period of time til new work was found , it was not welfare for life. Unaccountable welfare undermines the will to do for yourself & your family. When the federal government is responsible for the handouts it's all just nameless and faceless. If people had to rely on actual charity from their neighbors they would have to see that the money they're being given is being taken directly out of other people's families' mouths, and maybe feel some sense of personal accountability. I can't tell you how many times I've been in the grocery line behind someone using an EBT card, and they have a nicer phone and car than I could ever afford.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted June 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, Justice_League said: When the federal government is responsible for the handouts it's all just nameless and faceless. If people had to rely on actual charity from their neighbors they would have to see that the money they're being given is being taken directly out of other people's families' mouths, and maybe feel some sense of personal accountability. I can't tell you how many times I've been in the grocery line behind someone using an EBT card, and they have a nicer phone and car than I could ever afford.... I agree with that premise and I don't think the government does anyone a favor by fostering dependence. The one who feeds you controls you. Maybe that's the whole idea? I want to see aid to the elderly, the disabled and to young children. But able bodied adults laying about on the taxpayer's dime galls me. The Bible is clear on this subject.... 2 Thessaloians 3:10 KJV For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted June 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2017 I didn't see where it says they got jobs. Did it say? I don't know. Unknown to many people, there are working people who qualify for food stamps. This ideal that people are not being responsible is offensive to me. Sometimes stuff happens in life. Your job cuts your hrs, someone gets sick. You find yourself in a place you never thought you would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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