ERRORS of the POST-TRIB. view.

[fixerupper]

27 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Yes -

`God....may send Jesus  Christ.......whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, of which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.` (Acts 3: 20 & 21)

Marilyn.

And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:  Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Take the time and enlighten me as to where that verse describes Jesus returning before tribulation.

Edited June 23, 2017 by fixerupper

[fixerupper]

29 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Jesus is NOT telling Israel whom He calls His elect about another group that was not even in existence then.

Marilyn.

Jesus was responding to a question about the end of the world.  It doesn't matter if most of the audience was Jewish.  Yes Christians were in existence then.  But you guys would like us to believe they weren't called CHRISTIANS until later, but they are mentioned before Mathew 24, but that's totally irrelevant. 

Besides that!  This is a prophecy 2,000 years in the future from when Jesus uttered it, so it's MOOT to even consider whether people were called CHRISTIANS in 67AD since the event is future!  Christians were called christians in the words chosen and elect which signifies CHRISTIANS!!

Romans, Luke, Collosians, 1 Timothy, Titus, are just some of the books written before Mathew and the word ELECT and CHOSEN are used in them, and the word clearly indicates CHRISTIANS!  You can't see the extensive fabrications in all of this?  What in the world does it matter whether or not Christians were called Christians when the word elect means Christians!

The word CHRISTIAN is used in the book of Acts twice and that was written 3 years before Mathew.  But really, what a flimsy fabricated argument.

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[Marilyn C]

45 minutes ago, fixerupper said:

Jesus was responding to a question about the end of the world.  It doesn't matter if most of the audience was Jewish.  Yes Christians were in existence then.  But you guys would like us to believe they weren't called CHRISTIANS until later, but they are mentioned before Mathew 24, but that's totally irrelevant. 

Besides that!  This is a prophecy 2,000 years in the future from when Jesus uttered it, so it's MOOT to even consider whether people were called CHRISTIANS in 67AD since the event is future!  Christians were called christians in the words chosen and elect which signifies CHRISTIANS!!

Romans, Luke, Collosians, 1 Timothy, Titus, are just some of the books written before Mathew and the word ELECT and CHOSEN are used in them, and the word clearly indicates CHRISTIANS!  You can't see the extensive fabrications in all of this?  What in the world does it matter whether or not Christians were called Christians when the word elect means Christians!

The word CHRISTIAN is used in the book of Acts twice and that was written 3 years before Mathew.  But really, what a flimsy fabricated argument.

Hi fixerupper,

The Body of Christ only came into existence when God the Father gave the glorified Jesus the Holy Spirit to make us like Christ. No other group of people have had that privilege.

Marilyn.

[Marilyn C]

1 hour ago, fixerupper said:

And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:  Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Take the time and enlighten me as to where that verse describes Jesus returning before tribulation.

Hi fixerupper,

It would be nice if you had said "Could you please ...." The way you said it comes over `bossy.`

God the Father will send Jesus for the Body of Christ when it has come to the unity of the faith, (by the Holy Spirit). The Lord will then take us to the third heaven where He will be appointed by the Father, the supreme ruler over all created realms. There has not been a visible ruler in that realm since Lucifer was cast out. All rulership must come under the Lordship of Christ and that realm is the first.

Thus it is before any other rulerships come under Christ, in the trib. and throughout the millennium.

Marilyn.

[Retrobyter]

15 hours ago, n2thelight said:

Thx for reading it.

I take the"we" from Job

Job 38:1-7

V1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
V2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
V3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou Me.

God is asking Job why he listens to his friends when they have no idea what they are talking about. God is saying to Job, If you know so much, I'm going to ask you some questions and lets see you answer them. All of mankind put together knows very little compared to the wisdom of God.

V4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
V5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
V6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

God is asking Job where he was when He created the earth. This is something that happened many millions of years ago. God is taking us back to creation and the first earth age.

V7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Not many people shouting for joy now a days. This is looking back in time when we all where happy in heaven and everything was going great. This happened before the rebellion of Satan.

This is not correct. You've been blinded to a few simple facts that, when presented, show that Job 38 is NOT talking about the original Creation, but the RE-Creation after the Flood of Noach's day. Read on:

Job 38:8-11
8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,
11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
KJV

Who stopped the flood when it burst forth? He stopped it with huge layers of rock and sediment - "doors."
There were no clouds before the flood, because there was no rain before the flood. The "thick darkness as a swaddlingband" is the flat, black underside of a thundercloud, the dew point in the atmosphere where water vapor becomes water droplets condensed on minute dust particles.
Verses 10 and 11 are talking about the continental shelves where the cyclic waves are cropped so that the energy of the entire ocean wave is lessened against the shore.

Therefore, this passage is NOT talking about the initial Creation, which was when Adam was formed - which WAS less than 10,000 years ago, by the way, despite what the religion of Evolution says about "many millions of years ago" -  but is talking about the necessary changes God had to make to the earth to make it habitable again after the Flood.

The 

15 hours ago, n2thelight said:

God created the earth for us and it was perfect,when satan rebelled,He(God)destroyed it(earth).

Instead of God killing all who followed satan at that time,He came up with a plan,which was for all to be born of woman.

We just can't remember that time,as we now must make a choice of whom to follow.

Tell me, how do you know of such a plan? Can you point to Scripture that states this plan?

15 hours ago, n2thelight said:

One can read of all three ages in Peter

II Peter 3

V5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
V6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

The word "perished" is Strong's 622 and means apollumi (ap-ol'-loo-mee); from 575 and the base of 3639; to destroy fully (reflexively, to perish, or lose), literally or figuratively.

Some people desire to be ignorant to the fact that the earth is more than seven thousand years old when there is scientific proof which God's word aligns with. The dinosaur bones that are found toady are from the first earth age when dinosaurs walked the earth. Satan likes to play a lot of tricks but this is not one of them. Dinosaurs are talked about in God's word by God Himself in the book of Job. Read Job 40:15-24 and all of chapter 41 We were on the earth in our spiritual bodies in the first earth age with the dinosaurs. Because of the rebellion of Satan God destroyed fully that earth age with a flood. This is not talking about Noah's flood which happened in this earth age because it was not destroyed fully.

...

Well, 2 Peter 3:3-13 DOES describe three ages of this earth, or rather, three earths and three skies. The first earth and its skies - its atmosphere - was from Creation AS DESCRIBED in Genesis 1 and 2 and BEFORE the Flood of Noach's day.

The first earth and skies did indeed "perish" in the Flood and were "destroyed fully." The term "earth," both in Hebrew as "erets" (spelled alef-reish-tsadday) and in Greek as "gee" (spelled gamma-eta), simply means the "dirt," the "soil," the "land," in which crops are grown, and does NOT refer to the globe, the planet! In the same way, "skies," both in Hebrew as "shaamayim" (spelled shin-meim-yod-meim) and in Greek as "ouranoi" (spelled omicron-upsilon-rho-alpha-nu-omicron-iota) simply means the "air," both what you breathe, and what supports the clouds and the birds. It's the atmosphere.

This atmosphere was created BETWEEN waters. It was above the seas, the lower waters, but below the upper waters. These waters above the skies, that is, above the atmosphere, are what came down as rain for 40 days and 40 nights during Noach's 600th year of life.

The earth is roughly 4,000 miles in radius, consisting of the inner core, the outer core, the mantle and the thin layer of crust from 3 to 5 miles thick on the surface. WHY should God have to destroy the whole planet to wipe out humanity and all air-breathing animals?

He doesn't and He didn't.

The second earth and skies are from the Flood and on, and are the earth and skies we live in today. Their prospects are to be destroyed in a global Fire, that will occur just prior to the Great White Throne Judgment AFTER the Millennium.

Again, WHY should God have to destroy the whole planet - or worse, the WHOLE UNIVERSE, as some say - to wipe out humanity and the things which they have made (which things are only on the surface of the planet)?

The third earth and its skies will be the New Earth and its New Sky that John saw in Revelation 21:1-2.

Satan has indeed filled your head with lies if you think that the dinosaurs were on an earth that existed BEFORE the Creation of Genesis 1 and 2! There is NO "scientific proof" of the earth being older than 10,000 years! To the contrary, the evolutionists IGNORE proof that CONTRADICTS such ignorant conclusions. The preponderance of evidence is on the Creationist's side. Evolutionists "conclude" such things because the WANT to "conclude" such things! It gives them a way to say, "We don't need God for the earth's origin!" They'll date fossils by the "Geologic Column," but their "Geologic Column" consists of "index fossils" that were dated BY the "Geologic Column!" In other words, they INVENTED the "Geologic Column" and then used circular reasoning to support it! The evidence supports CATASTROPHISM, NOT UNIFORMITARIANISM! Uniformitarianism is best stated at the beginning of this very chapter:

2 Peter 3:3-4
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
KJV

These scoffers were IGNORING the fact that there were huge catastrophes, like the Flood, that define the changes that the world has experienced since "the beginning of the creation." Just look at the run-off from this North American continent! The Grand Canyon is evidence of SUDDEN erosion! If it were anything longer over "millions of years," the angles of the stone would have been MUCH less pronounced from the wind and weather erosion over time.

Niagara Falls is climbing upstream and has been since its formation. Guess what? It's NOT giving evidence of "millions of years," either! The raw power of falling water - the "Universal Solvent" - has tremendous power to erode, and the shelf from which Niagara Falls descends is eroding backwards upstream along the river.

The Great Salt Flats in Utah, which is frequently given in evidence FOR evolution (explained as a great inland sea drying up) did NOT occur over a long process of time, either. Wind erosion and water erosion from even the slight rainfall the area has, would have eaten up this salt bed LONG ago! Salts exist as CRYSTALS and crystalline structures break down with time in favor of randomness; any outside force will aid its deformation, like the sands upon the seashore are not a solid crystal of silicon.

What about the St Petersburg Sandstone of Montana? It covers HALF of the state in area, but it is FLIPPED OVER! The evolutionists don't want you to know about that, but their precious "Geologic Column" is UPSIDE-DOWN!

No, dinosaurs and mankind DID live together before the Flood and even AFTER the Flood for a while until the dinosaurs, changing into predators and carnivores, as did the lions and wolves, were hunted to distinction until now they are just memories - legends and myths - carved into cavesides and into the stories that are told about dragons and other incredible animals. There are REAL legends about such creatures living in the jungles of Africa; there are REAL legends of Aztec "gods" flying among the mountains; there are REAL legends of a creature described as "Nessy" a creature that could be described as a plesiosaur living in Loch Ness!

And, what about the discoveries of REAL animals once thought extinct long ago that turn up in unexpected places? The Coelacanth was once thought to be an extinct fish that lived long ago and went extinct in the late Cretaceous period. Now, we know that they are a REAL fish that still lives in the deep waters off the coast of Madagascar and in Indonesia!

No, evolutionary theory has MANY problems from the standpoint of evidence AND they are admittedly a HUMANISTIC PHILOSOPHY and a RELIGION, rather than mere science.

[n2thelight]

8 hours ago, Blueyedjewel said:

Thats alright.  Respectfully, I noticed that you are not aware of the basics ie harpazo ,so I dont think I care to hear of something more entailed. You would just be wasting your time explaining it all out. I dont want to waste your time or mine.

 I have a blessed hope. Im not looking for the antichirst. I am looking for Christ .

 

Blessings

Cool

We are to look 4 Christ,however satan comes first,supernaturally deceptive 

Anyway,do yu

[n2thelight]

26 minutes ago, Retrobyter said:

Therefore, this passage is NOT talking about the initial Creation, which was when Adam was formed - which WAS less than 10,000 years ago, by the way, despite what the religion of Evolution says about "many millions of years ago" -  but is talking about the necessary changes God had to make to the earth to make it habitable again after the Flood.

Keeping it short 

Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep."

Who is that Spirit of God? He is the Holy Spirit, and it is God's Spirit that moved upon the face of the waters.

In the Hebrew translation of the word, "was", as used in this verse "...the earth was without form,..."; in the original text it reads "became without form...". This same mistranslation of the word "became", and turning it into the word "was" is also present in Genesis 2:7. It should read there; "..and man became a living soul."

was

1961  hayah

hayah (haw-yaw); a primitive root [compare OT:1933]; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary):KJV - beacon,  altogether, be (-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall,  follow, happen,  have, last, pertain, quit (oneself-), require,  use.

void
922

bohuw (bo'-hoo); from an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, i.e. (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin:

KJV - emptiness, void.

The correct Hebrew translation from the Massoretic Hebrew text for the words, "without form" is "tohu-va bohu" in the Hebrew Strong's dictionary. So we see that the earth was not "created without form", but it "became [tohu] without form and void". Lets go to Strong's Hebrew dictionary, reference number 1961 to verify the word "was", that we read in this verse. "Yahah, haw-yaw; a prime root, to exit; to become, or come to pass." [#1961]

In Isaiah 45:18; "For thus saith the Lord That created the heavens; God Himself That formed the earth and made it; He hath established it He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: "I am the Lord; and there is none else."

This is God speaking as Isaiah is writing it down, and He is telling us that when He created the earth, it was not in vain. "Vain" is the same Hebrew word that we saw in Genesis 1:2, which was given as "void". God created this earth to be lived on, and to be inhabited. Genesis 1:1told us that God created the earth to be inhabited. The "Tohu", the "destruction", was not part of the creation plan of verse one, but came after the fall of Satan when one third of all the souls followed Satan in the first earth age, in verse two.

[n2thelight]

Jeremiah 4:23 "I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light."

God is telling us here exactly what He did to the earth at one time. This was in the first earth age. The earth spoken of here, is the "erets" as given in the Hebrew text. In Strong's Hebrew dictionary # 776.

God is saying that He was so angry before, in that first earth age, that He totally destroyed everything. In the Hebrew, from Genesis 1:2, "tohu va bohu" which means, "without form and void" "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

God said that He did not create the earth a waste land and void, it became that way when God shook it.

Jeremiah 4:24 "I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly."

Imagine all the hills and mountains around this earth moving in one massive earthquake.

Jeremiah 4:25 "I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled."

There was no man, because He destroyed every being on the face of the earth. God destroyed all the birds, and creatures along with man. This is not talking about the flood of Noah, for with the flood of Noah, not only was eight Adamic souls saved but two souls from each race, as well as two of all the animals. Even the Kenites, the sons of Cain came through the flood.

Genesis 6:18 "But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shall come into the ark, thou and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee."

Genesis 6:19 "And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female."

Genesis 6:20 "Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive."

When we look at the plates of the land masses of the earth, it is obvious that there has been a shaking that took place. When Satan fell in that first earth age, there was a flood and destruction that left nothing alive to survive into this earth age. When Noah's flood came God was careful to preserve all flesh, and to take two of every kind aboard the ark. Not only are the animals and birds flesh, but all the races were flesh also, including the Kenites, those sons of Cain.

Jeremiah 4:26 "I beheld, and lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by His fierce anger."

God destroyed all their cities, as well as every man and beast of the field. Did you notice that there were ancient cities in that first earth age. The bible does not disagree that the overthrow took place, and that this earth is millions of years old. However most Bible teachers today say that this earth is only 6,000 years old. Remember what God called those people? Stupid! They can't read the manuscripts, and open their eyes to the evidence around them, and see the truths that God has spoken in His Word.

They like to argue a point in stupidity, and desire to stay away from II Peter 3, where Peter makes it clear that there are three earth ages. They can only understand what sits right before their eyes, and taught in their traditions. Friend, there are many sites scattered all around the earth where there is physical evidence of creatures that existed that are just not in existence today. If the earth is only six thousand years old, why do we have the skeleton remains of so many creatures that roamed the earth far before flesh man was created?

Have you never read the story of the "behemoth" in Job 40:15-19. It is the story of the dinosaurs that roamed the earth millions of years ago, that ate grass like the ox, and had the strength of a cedar tree in his tail. God made this earth to be inhabited, but Satan rebelled and God destroyed the planet.

So many say, why can't we find flesh remains of those men and women that existed then? We are living in the flesh age of man that is common only to this earth age. At the sounding of the seventh and last trumpet, at the coming of the Lord, all flesh will be changed then also, as Paul states in I Corinthians 15:51,-52. "Behold I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed," [51] "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." [52]

This time is not very far off when all flesh bodies will take on the form of their incorruptible bodies, and the elect of God will also take on their immortality into that incorruptible at that time also. All souls will be in their spiritual bodies then.

Jeremiah 4:27 "For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end."

God is saying that in the end, He will still have a remnant that He will protect. The earth will be rejuvinated at His coming, and it will be a perfect place. When we move into that third Earth Age, that being the Millennium Age and after, there will be no Satan to disrrupt the earth. Science and our Father's Word go together beautifully. It is the minds of some people that like to distort and use personal assumptions that makes it confusing. The Christian world likes to make the Scriptures fit their traditions, while some evolutionists like to build assumptions into their theories that likewise are just as foolish, especially in the sight of what we see around us.

[Retrobyter]

2 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Retro,

I think n2thelight`s post was even longer.... And yes I do like to write out scriptures too. Yes context and also within the overall of scripture and God`s purposes.

Marilyn.

Shalom, Marilyn.

I'm afraid I just blew apart n2thelight's record responding to him, but I couldn't help it. I was just waxing eloquently because I'm so passionate about the subject, but I really HATE the way that Evolutionary dogma has invaded our schools to the point that one cannot even be a teacher or professor in the U.S. without bowing to the Theory of Evolution! One cannot even earn a Ph.D. in biology or sociology without believing in Evolution!

Anyway, regarding "angels": Did you know that John the Baptist was called an angel?

First, remember that "angel" is a transliteration of the Greek word "aggelos." Whoever was responsible took the alpha and made it an English "a," the gamma-gamma consonant blend sounding like "ng" and made it an English "ng," the epsilon and made it an English "e," and the lambda and made it an English "l." The omicron-sigma (or stigma) was dropped since it was a Greek thing to identify a masculine noun. String them together and you get, "a-ng-e-l." However, the word "aggelos" means a "messenger." (I think you already know this, but one reading along may not.)

Matthew 11:7-10
7 And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind?
8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.
9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.
10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger (Greek: aggelos) before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
KJV

This is also repeated in Mark 1:2 and Luke 7:27; however, Luke 7 also gives us this information:

Luke 7:11-24
11 And it came to pass the day after, that he went into a city called Nain; and many of his disciples went with him, and much people.
12 Now when he came nigh to the gate of the city, behold, there was a dead man carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow: and much people of the city was with her.
13 And when the Lord saw her, he had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not.
14 And he came and touched the bier: and they that bare him stood still. And he said, Young man, I say unto thee, Arise.
15 And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother.
16 And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.
17 And this rumour of him went forth throughout all Judaea, and throughout all the region round about.
18 And the disciples of John shewed him of all these things.
19 And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
20 When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
21 And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight.
22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.
23 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.
24 And when the messengers (Greek: aggeloi, the plural of aggelos) of John were departed, he began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind?
...
KJV

These two disciples of John the Baptist were human, as well.

Later, in Luke 9, we read:

Luke 9:51-52
51 And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
52 And sent messengers (Greek: aggeloi) before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.
KJV

More men called "aggeloi."

Paul said later in the book of Galatians,

Galatians 4:13-14
13 Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first.
14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel (Greek: aggelos = messenger) of God, even as Christ Jesus.
KJV

They were not thinking of Paul as a "supernatural being"; they were thinking of him as "God's messenger!"

When the author of Hebrews said,...

Hebrews 13:2
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
KJV

...he was NOT intending this to sound freaky! Y'know, like you suddenly hear the theme song for "The Twilight Zone" in the background? He simply meant that some have unwittingly entertained (God's) HUMAN messengers.

During the day, I work in construction and have little time to think, let alone talk to others. When I do talk with others, they frequently count me as unimportant, just another peon. Little do they know that they are talking to a child of God who goes by the screen name of "Retrobyter!"

See what I mean? Until one gets into a conversation with someone, they don't know with whom they are dealing!

I'm out of time, but I'll write more later.

[n2thelight]

28 minutes ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, Marilyn.

I'm afraid I just blew apart n2thelight's record responding to him, but I couldn't help it. I was just waxing eloquently because I'm so passionate about the subject, but I really HATE the way that Evolutionary dogma has invaded our schools to the point that one cannot even be a teacher or professor in the U.S. without bowing to the Theory of Evolution! One cannot even earn a Ph.D. in biology or sociology without believing in Evolution!

Evolution is not true,however this earth is more than 10,000 years old

Science and scripture does not contradict.