sermonindex Posted July 2, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 6 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 58 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted July 2, 2017 St. Paul writes to Timothy giving us a picture of how it will look just before the second coming of the Lord. He shares that people will be “unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good” (2 Timothy 3:3). In the end times there will be a great shift in how people live and act worldwide. Jesus spoke of children who will betray parents and how people will even want to put Christians to death (Matthew 24:9-10). But we see the root of the issue in the attitudes of human hearts, and committed believers in Jesus Christ are not excluded. Not having love, not forgiving, and speaking evil of other good believers will be just part of the coming spirit of anti-Christ in the world. Unforgiveness is a prison, a torturer. It will rob us of our joy, peace and even physical health. Jesus knew mankind and he knew that a great problem that many deal with is forgiving others. It is one of our Lord’s primary teachings and the apostles were very keen to this. Peter said to Jesus in answer to his question of forgiveness, seven times! He understood that Jesus said to be extravagant in our forgiveness of others, and the current teaching by rabbis in that day was to forgive three times and then seek revenge. Our Lord’s response showed the extent of how God forgives and how those who claim to follow him should forgive, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times” (Matthew 18:22). Quote Our Lord is teaching that forgiveness is not optional. We should be like our Lord who forgives greatly, forgives deeply, and forgives the inexcusable. Do you find it hard to forgive other brothers and sisters in the Lord? Do you find it hard to love others in the body of Christ because of hurtful things that were done to you? Are you speaking evil of those brothers and sisters and judging them? It is very important that we are clear of all such sin and are full of love, forgiveness and using our mouths to show mercy and love to others in order to restore them (Galatians 5:1). Early believers lived in great anticipation of the coming of the Lord, and the thought of holding a grudge in unforgiveness with a believer and then entering eternity with this sin was unthinkable. In speaking about disputes, St. James writes, “Don’t grumble against one another” (James 5:9). The terrible reality to him was that the Judge was standing at the door, the Lord was coming back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted July 2, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,825 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,753 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 2, 2017 There something that I heard before in your post. About forgiveness, yes forgiveness should be encouraged. Not all situations that cause unforgivness are the same. Is there such a thing as the right time to forgive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted July 2, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 475 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,556 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 7,634 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 2, 2017 Good post Sermonindex. That a good point to bring up about Jesus teaching forgiveness . The amount of forgiveness is unlimited. We always want forgiveness but judge others not worthy of forgiveness to the degree we look for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101G Posted July 21, 2017 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2017 GINOLJC, Revelation 22:11 "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisFirst Posted July 21, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3,491 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 2,582 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/25/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 02/07/2017 at 7:46 PM, sermonindex said: St. Paul writes to Timothy giving us a picture of how it will look just before the second coming of the Lord. He shares that people will be “unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good” (2 Timothy 3:3). In the end times there will be a great shift in how people live and act worldwide. Jesus spoke of children who will betray parents and how people will even want to put Christians to death (Matthew 24:9-10). But we see the root of the issue in the attitudes of human hearts, and committed believers in Jesus Christ are not excluded. Not having love, not forgiving, and speaking evil of other good believers will be just part of the coming spirit of anti-Christ in the world. Unforgiveness is a prison, a torturer. It will rob us of our joy, peace and even physical health. Jesus knew mankind and he knew that a great problem that many deal with is forgiving others. It is one of our Lord’s primary teachings and the apostles were very keen to this. Peter said to Jesus in answer to his question of forgiveness, seven times! He understood that Jesus said to be extravagant in our forgiveness of others, and the current teaching by rabbis in that day was to forgive three times and then seek revenge. Our Lord’s response showed the extent of how God forgives and how those who claim to follow him should forgive, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times” (Matthew 18:22). Do you find it hard to forgive other brothers and sisters in the Lord? Do you find it hard to love others in the body of Christ because of hurtful things that were done to you? Are you speaking evil of those brothers and sisters and judging them? It is very important that we are clear of all such sin and are full of love, forgiveness and using our mouths to show mercy and love to others in order to restore them (Galatians 5:1). Early believers lived in great anticipation of the coming of the Lord, and the thought of holding a grudge in unforgiveness with a believer and then entering eternity with this sin was unthinkable. In speaking about disputes, St. James writes, “Don’t grumble against one another” (James 5:9). The terrible reality to him was that the Judge was standing at the door, the Lord was coming back soon. Thanks so much, really needed this today ...... quote - *It is very important that we are clear of all such sin and are full of love, forgiveness and using our mouths to show mercy and love to others in order to restore them.(Galatians 5:1). Amen!! *Pride is our enemy and stops us from pursuing love in the way we as Christians ought to and are taught to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted July 21, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 475 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,556 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 7,634 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2017 We should forgive even if the other person is still unrepentant. Jesus prayed Father forgive them for they know not what they do. So he was praying for there forgiveness before there repentance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted July 23, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,825 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,753 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 23, 2017 On 7/21/2017 at 7:58 PM, Wayne222 said: We should forgive even if the other person is still unrepentant. Jesus prayed Father forgive them for they know not what they do. So he was praying for there forgiveness before there repentance. I understand what Jesus say, but his situation is different and very unique than ours. THOSE people were in the will of God, putting the plan of God into fruition, and without their knowledge. I don't think this is an example JESUS CHRIST set for us and we need to follow it as an absolute. I don't think, it is in the will of God to see this example as an absolute to follow, to forgive yes, but when and for what purpose. As I see it to follow that example with the same precision, we may find our selfs out of the will of God, and be considered only about our selves, and not the common good and the needs of the offenders. And the general deterance, depending the specific, the very specific situation. It would depend all the time, and never in a hurry and not for selfies reasons, and out of fear of the devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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