OldSchool2 Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 12, 2017 3 hours ago, shiloh357 said: ... Translations are never considered inspired and not all translations are created equal. Again, you need to spend some time studying the doctrine of inspiration. Of course some translations are better than others, but that doesn't invalidate them. And the ability to read Koine Greek and/or Hebrew doesn't guarantee spiritual understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, OldSchool2 said: Of course some translations are better than others, but that doesn't invalidate them. And the ability to read Koine Greek and/or Hebrew doesn't guarantee spiritual understanding. All of that is beside the point. The point is that the BCP is not inspired to degree or on the level that Scripture is inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah_ Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 787 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 869 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, shiloh357 said: All of that is beside the point. The point is that the BCP is not inspired to degree or on the level that Scripture is inspired. Nobody (as far as I know) has ever claimed that it is inspired. It's a liturgy, that's all. It's based on Scripture, it includes many Scriptural phrases, and so can be used by Christians (if they want to) with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Deborah_ said: Nobody (as far as I know) has ever claimed that it is inspired. It's a liturgy, that's all. It's based on Scripture, it includes many Scriptural phrases, and so can be used by Christians (if they want to) with confidence. OS2 was apparently trying to make a case for calling it inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 508 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 216 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/09/1985 Share Posted July 12, 2017 47 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: OS2 was apparently trying to make a case for calling it inspired. No Anglican would say it is inspired. (I know several good Christian Anglicans.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 12, 2017 3 hours ago, shiloh357 said: All of that is beside the point.... No, it is the point, i.e., which biblical translations are inspired, and which are not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, shiloh357 said: OS2 was apparently trying to make a case for calling it inspired. It was at least as inspired as Handel's "Messiah." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, ricky said: No Anglican would say it is inspired. (I know several good Christian Anglicans.) I know some Episcopalians who would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Deborah_ said: Nobody (as far as I know) has ever claimed that it is inspired. It's a liturgy, that's all.... "Almighty God, unto whom all hearts be open, all desires known, and from whom no secrets be hid: Cleanse the thoughts of our hearts by the inspiration of thy Holy Spirit, that we may perfectly love thee, and worthily magnify thy holy name; through Christ our Lord. Amen." Just another uninspired liturgy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 508 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 216 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/09/1985 Share Posted July 12, 2017 There are some great prayers in the Book of Common prayer, but it is not inspired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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