ricky Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 508 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 216 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/09/1985 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, OldSchool2 said: I know some Episcopalians who would. With all due respect the Episcopal Church isn't exactly a bastion of orthodox doctrine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, ricky said: There are some great prayers in the Book of Common prayer, but it is not inspired What makes prayer great if not inspiration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 12, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, ricky said: With all due respect the Episcopal Church isn't exactly a bastion of orthodox doctrine. I said Episcopalians, not what's left of the once popular "power church." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 9 hours ago, OldSchool2 said: No, it is the point, i.e., which biblical translations are inspired, and which are not? Okay, for the third or fourth time, no translations or copies are inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 8 hours ago, OldSchool2 said: What makes prayer great if not inspiration? You don't understand the doctrine of inspiration. When we speak of the inspiration of Scripture, it is not the same type of inspiration that we think of when we think of a poet or a novelist or song writer being "inspired." The Bible is inspired in that it is transmitted His message to the human authors of Scripture and that He did so without mixture of any error, human impulse, imagination, ideas, or intellect. The Bible is not a mixture of human and divine authorship. It is wholly breathed of God and given to man from God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 13, 2017 3 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Okay, for the third or fourth time, no translations or copies are inspired. That would include the King James authorized translation of the Bible, a book whose prose had a profound influence on literature for the last 400 years after it became the standard text for English-speaking Protestants! It would also include any copies of the original Greek and Hebrew biblical autographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 13, 2017 3 hours ago, shiloh357 said: You don't understand the doctrine of inspiration. When we speak of the inspiration of Scripture, it is not the same type of inspiration that we think of when we think of a poet or a novelist or song writer being "inspired." The Bible is inspired in that it is transmitted His message to the human authors of Scripture and that He did so without mixture of any error, human impulse, imagination, ideas, or intellect. The Bible is not a mixture of human and divine authorship. It is wholly breathed of God and given to man from God. Given to man through men who were inspired by God -- but I don't see any expiration date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 53 minutes ago, OldSchool2 said: That would include the King James authorized translation of the Bible, a book whose prose had a profound influence on literature for the last 400 years after it became the standard text for English-speaking Protestants! It would also include any copies of the original Greek and Hebrew biblical autographs. Exactly. None of that is inspired. Only the original autographs were inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, OldSchool2 said: Given to man through men who were inspired by God -- but I don't see any expiration date. That is because you don't understand the doctrine of inspiration. There is no expiration date on the inspiration of the original autographs. But copies and translations are not transmitted from God to man, so they are not inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted July 13, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Share Posted July 13, 2017 4 hours ago, shiloh357 said: That is because you don't understand the doctrine of inspiration. There is no expiration date on the inspiration of the original autographs. But copies and translations are not transmitted from God to man, so they are not inspired. So if you can't read the original languages or even if you can but only have copies of the autographs there is no inspiration involved? Sounds more magical than biblical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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