HAZARD Posted July 8, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 8, 2017 Do these so called Bishops even own a Bible, and if they do, do they read them? Lev. 20:13, If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Obviously not, God call the above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ a death penalty sin if not repented of. Church of England bishops in the UK have overwhelmingly backed a motion calling for a ban on "unethical" conversion therapy for gay Christians. Being gay IS NOT A SICKNESS OR A SIN, the church's General Synod heard on Saturday as it debated and voted on a private member's motion. Christian gay rights campaigner Jayne Ozanne's motion called on the C of E to endorse a statement branding the therapy "potentially harmful" with "no place in the modern world", signed by professional bodies including the Royal College of GPs and the UK Council for Psychotherapy in January. The Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, said during the debate: "The sooner the practice of so-called conversion therapy is banned, I can sleep at night." The vote sends out a strong message to the world that the church does not see homosexuality as a crime, said Bishop of Liverpool Paul Bayes. "As the world listens to us the world needs to hear us say that LGBTI+ orientation and identity is not a crime," he said. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/church-of-england-bishops-ban-gay-conversion-therapy-pride-2016-lgbt-rights-a7831391.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudgenik Posted July 9, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 616 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 155 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, HAZARD said: Do these so called Bishops even own a Bible, and if they do, do they read them? Lev. 20:13, If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Obviously not, God call the above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ a death penalty sin if not repented of. Church of England bishops in the UK have overwhelmingly backed a motion calling for a ban on "unethical" conversion therapy for gay Christians. Being gay IS NOT A SICKNESS OR A SIN, the church's General Synod heard on Saturday as it debated and voted on a private member's motion. Christian gay rights campaigner Jayne Ozanne's motion called on the C of E to endorse a statement branding the therapy "potentially harmful" with "no place in the modern world", signed by professional bodies including the Royal College of GPs and the UK Council for Psychotherapy in January. The Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, said during the debate: "The sooner the practice of so-called conversion therapy is banned, I can sleep at night." The vote sends out a strong message to the world that the church does not see homosexuality as a crime, said Bishop of Liverpool Paul Bayes. "As the world listens to us the world needs to hear us say that LGBTI+ orientation and identity is not a crime," he said. The words Christian and gay rights should never be used together. It is like anti-Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah_ Posted July 9, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 790 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 878 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2017 Being gay is not a sin, just a temptation. It's the behaviour that's the sin. And most so-called 'conversion therapies' have been discredited, at least in the UK. Their promoters raise false hopes, and exploit (and fleece) some very desperate people. I don't know of any reputable church or Christian group that endorses them. So I agree with the bishops in this particular instance. 9 hours ago, Traveler said: Many of those bishops are also high druids. You can find them at Stonehenge during solstices. A gross exaggeration. One bishop once associated (unwisely) with a group of Welsh druids. He has never lived it down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 9, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 12 hours ago, Deborah_ said: Being gay is not a sin, just a temptation. It's the behaviour that's the sin. And most so-called 'conversion therapies' have been discredited, at least in the UK. Their promoters raise false hopes, and exploit (and fleece) some very desperate people. I don't know of any reputable church or Christian group that endorses them. So I agree with the bishops in this particular instance. A gross exaggeration. One bishop once associated (unwisely) with a group of Welsh druids. He has never lived it down... Being gay is not sinful. The word "gay" simply mean's light hearted or cheerful until the word was shanghaied by the sodomites. One is either a practicing sodomite or not, its that simple. They call themselves "gay" to pretty up their horrid practice. They used to call themselves "queer" downunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted July 10, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted July 10, 2017 But what does GOD say. I leave us with this to ponder on. When every single person stands before HIM at the end, will GOD say well done you became a friend of the world , enter into everlasting life. NO. My advice is since man aint our judge. Don't live for pc, nor anything man teaches that is contrary to GOD just live by the HOLY SPIRIT which don't Contradict GOD....................GOD is his spirit . Here let me encourage us with something so clear in the NEW test writings. Charity. IF we don't have LOVE...............we never knew GOD, it wont matter what we did, even if we gave all food all our goods to the poor and our bodies to be burned it wont matter IF WE had not CHARITY < LOVE so we better KNOW the LOVE that comes FROM GOD and not the worlds version of what it THINKS love is or should be. HERE a hint. Charity does not rejoice in INQUITY.................and it SURE does NOT behave itself unseemingly. UNSEEMINGLY/ Now where on earth have I heard that word before in NEW Testament writings......... OH YEAH..................man with man working that which is UNSEEMINGLY...................man, if we aint GOT CHARITY , nothing else matters......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted July 10, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Ever get the FEELING that many churches are lieing and deceiving the masses. THEY are. We better feed on the HOLY SCRIPS which make one wise unto SALVATION through faith in Christ. cause almost every single church, specially the big ones, are feeding the people mushroom scrips from a false vesion of JESUS which is SLAVATION to SIN. MUSHROOM THEOLOGY. KEEP the people in the dark and feed lots of dung doctrine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 14 hours ago, Deborah_ said: Being gay is not a sin, just a temptation. It's the behaviour that's the sin. Yes it is a sin. The Bible has a working principle that sin begins in the heart before it is carried out in the flesh. It is just as sinful to desire to sin as it is to commit the sin. The bishops are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudgenik Posted July 10, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 616 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 155 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2017 19 hours ago, Deborah_ said: Being gay is not a sin, just a temptation. It's the behaviour that's the sin. And most so-called 'conversion therapies' have been discredited, at least in the UK. Their promoters raise false hopes, and exploit (and fleece) some very desperate people. I don't know of any reputable church or Christian group that endorses them. So I agree with the bishops in this particular instance. A gross exaggeration. One bishop once associated (unwisely) with a group of Welsh druids. He has never lived it down... Being Gay is not some sickness of the body. It isn't something like a virus, or a cold where you can't stop it. It isn't even like drugs, with the exception of those first few times. Because being Gay is something you Want to do. And you Want to do it every time. At least with a cocaine user, the first one, two, and three times - they are his/her choice. After that, it is the cocaine that litterially takes over. It is called a mind altering drug. Being Gay has no excuses. You choose to do that each and every day. I can't figure how you can defend that lifestyle. They are often violent and rude. Go see any gay pride parade, or go to New Orleans, or Seattle Wa. or the Florida Keys, when they have alt week. Oh ya, so innocent. Yuck! Try standing up for Jesus, at a gay rights parade, please. You'll see how humble they really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudgenik Posted July 10, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 616 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 155 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2017 On 7/8/2017 at 7:04 PM, HAZARD said: Do these so called Bishops even own a Bible, and if they do, do they read them? Lev. 20:13, If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Obviously not, God call the above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ a death penalty sin if not repented of. Church of England bishops in the UK have overwhelmingly backed a motion calling for a ban on "unethical" conversion therapy for gay Christians. Being gay IS NOT A SICKNESS OR A SIN, the church's General Synod heard on Saturday as it debated and voted on a private member's motion. Christian gay rights campaigner Jayne Ozanne's motion called on the C of E to endorse a statement branding the therapy "potentially harmful" with "no place in the modern world", signed by professional bodies including the Royal College of GPs and the UK Council for Psychotherapy in January. The Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, said during the debate: "The sooner the practice of so-called conversion therapy is banned, I can sleep at night." The vote sends out a strong message to the world that the church does not see homosexuality as a crime, said Bishop of Liverpool Paul Bayes. "As the world listens to us the world needs to hear us say that LGBTI+ orientation and identity is not a crime," he said. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/church-of-england-bishops-ban-gay-conversion-therapy-pride-2016-lgbt-rights-a7831391.html All you have to do is read what Paul says in Romans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah_ Posted July 10, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 790 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 878 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2017 6 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Yes it is a sin. The Bible has a working principle that sin begins in the heart before it is carried out in the flesh. It is just as sinful to desire to sin as it is to commit the sin. The bishops are wrong. Then all of us heterosexuals are also in a continual state of sin, because we are all attracted to members of the opposite sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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