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2 hours ago, Patrick Miron said:

Friend, I don't believe that I ever stated that Salvation is for Catholics only {despite the FACT that it is the One True Faith and Church Jesus desired}

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

CATALOGUE OF ROME'S UNSCRIPTURAL DOCTRINES
AND DATES OF THEIR INCEPTION

1. Prayers for the dead 300 A.D.
2. Sign of the Cross 310 A.D.
3. Wax votive candles 320 A.D.
4. Veneration of saints and angels 375 A.D.
5. Mary declared "Mother of God" 431 A.D.
6. Priests begin to wear vestments 500 A.D.
7. Worship in Latin 600 A.D.
8. Temporal power of Papacy granted by Phocas 610 A.D.
9. Feast days in honour of Mary 650 A.D.
10. Kissing of the Pope's feet 709 A.D.
11. Temporal power of Papacy confirmed 750 A.D.
12. Adoration of Mary, saints, images and relics
legalised by 2nd Council of Nicea
788 A.D.
13. Holy water 850 A.D.
14. Veneration of St. Joseph 890 A.D.
15. Baptism of bells 965 A.D.
16. Canonization of dead saints 995 A.D.
17. Fasting on Fridays and Lent 998 A.D.
18. Rosary beads 1090 A.D.
19. Pope Boniface VII decrees celibacy of priests 1097 A.D.
20. Inquisition of heretics 1184 A.D.
21. Sale of Indulgences 1190 A.D.
22. Transubstantiation of the wafer 1215 A.D.
23. Confession to a priest 1215 A.D.
24. Adoration of the host (Wafer God) 1220 A.D.
25. Bible forbidden and placed on index of forbidden books --
by Council of Valencia
1229 A.D.
26. Red hats for Cardinals 1245 A.D.
27. Feast of Corpus Christi 1264 A.D.
28. The Miraculous scapular 1287 A.D.
29. Roman church as the only true church 1303 A.D.
30. Cup forbidden to laity at Communion 1415 A.D.
31. Purgatory decreed by Council of Florence 1439 A.D.
32. Doctrine of the seven sacraments 1439 A.D.
33. Tradition of equal authority to the Bible 1545 A.D.
34. Justification by works and not faith alone 1545 A.D.
35. Creed of Pope Plus IV makes all the unscriptural
doctrines of Council of Trent binding
1560 A.D.
36. Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary 1854 A.D.
37. Papal infallibility 1870 A.D.
38. Papal decree on mixed marriages -- all marriages not
celebrated by a Roman priest declared null and void
1908 A.D.
39. Pope reaffirms Mary as Mother of God 1931 A.D.
40. Assumption of the Virgin Mary 1950 A.D.
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19 hours ago, Michael37 said:

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

CATALOGUE OF ROME'S UNSCRIPTURAL DOCTRINES
AND DATES OF THEIR INCEPTION

1. Prayers for the dead 300 A.D.
2. Sign of the Cross 310 A.D.
3. Wax votive candles 320 A.D.
4. Veneration of saints and angels 375 A.D.
5. Mary declared "Mother of God" 431 A.D.
6. Priests begin to wear vestments 500 A.D.
7. Worship in Latin 600 A.D.
8. Temporal power of Papacy granted by Phocas 610 A.D.
9. Feast days in honour of Mary 650 A.D.
10. Kissing of the Pope's feet 709 A.D.
11. Temporal power of Papacy confirmed 750 A.D.
12. Adoration of Mary, saints, images and relics
legalised by 2nd Council of Nicea
788 A.D.
13. Holy water 850 A.D.
14. Veneration of St. Joseph 890 A.D.
15. Baptism of bells 965 A.D.
16. Canonization of dead saints 995 A.D.
17. Fasting on Fridays and Lent 998 A.D.
18. Rosary beads 1090 A.D.
19. Pope Boniface VII decrees celibacy of priests 1097 A.D.
20. Inquisition of heretics 1184 A.D.
21. Sale of Indulgences 1190 A.D.
22. Transubstantiation of the wafer 1215 A.D.
23. Confession to a priest 1215 A.D.
24. Adoration of the host (Wafer God) 1220 A.D.
25. Bible forbidden and placed on index of forbidden books --
by Council of Valencia
1229 A.D.
26. Red hats for Cardinals 1245 A.D.
27. Feast of Corpus Christi 1264 A.D.
28. The Miraculous scapular 1287 A.D.
29. Roman church as the only true church 1303 A.D.
30. Cup forbidden to laity at Communion 1415 A.D.
31. Purgatory decreed by Council of Florence 1439 A.D.
32. Doctrine of the seven sacraments 1439 A.D.
33. Tradition of equal authority to the Bible 1545 A.D.
34. Justification by works and not faith alone 1545 A.D.
35. Creed of Pope Plus IV makes all the unscriptural
doctrines of Council of Trent binding
1560 A.D.
36. Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary 1854 A.D.
37. Papal infallibility 1870 A.D.
38. Papal decree on mixed marriages -- all marriages not
celebrated by a Roman priest declared null and void
1908 A.D.
39. Pope reaffirms Mary as Mother of God 1931 A.D.
40. Assumption of the Virgin Mary 1950 A.D.

 

To further your education my dear friend;

 

How much money does the Catholic Church give to charity?

 

In 2010, Catholic Charities USA reported expenditures of between $4.2 billion and $4.4 billion, according to the Chronicle of Philanthropy, which publishes an annual list of the 400 biggest charities in the United States, ranked by the amount of donations they receive.Mar 19, 2013

 

What does Catholic Charities do for you?

Catholic Charities uses a variety of approaches to deal with poverty, providing basic needs to individuals and advocacy to address systemic poverty. Through its member agencies, Catholic Charities provides services to millions of people a year through activities such as housing, health care, and disaster relief.

 

#11 Catholic Charities USA

·        Revenue

·        $3.7 Billion

Category

Domestic Needs

Country

United States

Top Person

Donna Markham

Website

http://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org

Fiscal Year End

Jun 30, 2016

Total Revenues

$3.73 B

Headquarters

Alexandria, Virginia

Catholic Charities USA on Forbes Lists

·        #11 The 100 Largest U.S. Charities

 

Catholic Church and science

From Wikipedia, the free {and notably anti-Catholic} encyclopedia

The relationship between the Catholic Church and science is a widely debated subject. Historically, the Catholic Church has often been a patron of sciences. It has been prolific in the foundation of schools, universities and hospitals, and many clergy have been active in the sciences. Historians of science such as Pierre Duhemcredit medieval Catholic mathematicians and philosophers such as John BuridanNicole Oresme, and Roger Bacon as the founders of modern science.[1]Duhem found "the mechanics and physics, of which modern times are justifiably proud, to proceed by an uninterrupted series of scarcely perceptible improvements from doctrines professed in the heart of the medieval schools."[2] Yet, the conflict thesis and other critiques emphasize historical or contemporary conflict between the Catholic Church and science, citing in particular the trial of Galileo as evidence. For its part, the Catholic Church teaches that science and the Christian faith are complementary, as can be seen from the Catechism of the Catholic Church which states in regards to faith and science:

Though faith is above reason, there can never be any real discrepancy between faith and reason. Since the same God who reveals mysteries and infuses faith has bestowed the light of reason on the human mind, God cannot deny himself, nor can truth ever contradict truth. ... Consequently, methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things of faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God in spite of himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are.[3]

Catholic scientists, both religious and lay, have led scientific discovery in many fields.[4] From ancient times, Christian emphasis on practical charity gave rise to the development of systematic nursing and hospitals and the Church remains the single largest private provider of medical care and research facilities in the world.[5]

 Following the Fall of Rome, monasteries and convents remained bastions of scholarship in Western Europe and clergymen were the leading scholars of the age – studying nature, mathematics, and the motion of the stars (largely for religious purposes).[6] 

During the Middle Ages, the Church founded Europe's first universities, producing scholars like Robert GrossetesteAlbert the Great, Roger Bacon, and Thomas Aquinas, who helped establish the scientific method.[7]

During this period, the Church was also a great patron of engineering for the construction of elaborate cathedrals. Since the Renaissance, Catholic scientists have been credited as fathers of a diverse range of scientific fields: Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829) prefigured the theory of evolution with Lamarckism, Friar Gregor Mendel (1822-1884) pioneered genetics, and Fr Georges Lemaître (1894-1966) proposed the Big Bang cosmological model.[8] The Jesuits have been particularly active, notably in astronomy. Church patronage of sciences continues through institutions like the Pontifical Academy of Sciences and Vatican Observatory.[9] END QUOTES

What the Church has given the world

by Fr Andrew Pinsent

 

From astronomy to philosophy Catholics have made an extraordinary contribution to western civilisation, says Fr Andrew Pinsent

Introduction

At a recent debate, broadcast worldwide by the BBC, over 87 per cent of the audience rejected the notion that the Catholic Church is a force for good in the world. Although the defenders of the Church were confronted by two masters of rhetoric, there is little doubt that the vote reflected a shift in attitudes towards Christianity in general and the Catholic faith in particular. To put this shift in blunt terms, whereas we were regarded recently as nice but naïve, today we are increasingly regarded as evil. As a result, teaching the faith and defending Christian ethics has become much more difficult.

To address this challenge at its root, I believe it is vital that we remind ourselves of the extent to which the Catholic faith is a force for good in the world. Jesus said: “You will know them by their fruits,” and even some outside the Church appreciate her fruitfulness. In 2007, for example, an atheist businessman, Robert Wilson, gave $22.5 million (£13.5 million) to Catholic education in New York, arguing that, “without the Roman Catholic Church, there would be no western civilisation.”

Inspired by Wilson’s insight, I have been working recently with Fr Marcus Holden, parish priest of Ramsgate and a tutor at Maryvale, to collate the extraordinary contributions of Catholic culture and Catholic minds. The following sections provide some samples of this work, which should be invaluable to anyone who is faced with the question: “What has the Church ever done for us?”

For a more complete account of the fruitfulness of the Catholic faith in these and many other fields, see Lumen: The Catholic Gift to Civilisation, published January 2011 by the Catholic Truth Society.

Fr Andrew Pinsent is a priest of the diocese of Arundel and Brighton and Research Director of the Ian Ramsey Centre for Science and Religion at Oxford University. He was formerly a particle physicist at CERN. He is co-founder, with Fr Marcus Holden, of the Evangelium Project, which is dedicated to improving the quality of Catholic education. See www.evangelium.co.uk.

1. Light and the cosmos

The Opus Maius (1267) of the Franciscan Roger Bacon (d 1292), written at the request of Pope Clement IV, largely initiated the tradition of optics in the Latin world. The first spectacles were invented in Italy around 1300, an application of lenses that developed later into telescopes and microscopes.

While many people think of Galileo (d 1642) being persecuted, they tend to forget the peculiar circumstances of these events, or the fact that he died in his bed and his daughter became a nun.

The Gregorian Calendar (1582), now used worldwide, is a fruit of work by Catholic astronomers, as is the development of astrophysics by the spectroscopy of Fr Angelo Secchi (d 1878).

Most remarkably, the most important theory of modern cosmology, the Big Bang, was invented by a Catholic priest, Fr Georges Lemaître (d 1966, pictured), a historical fact that is almost never mentioned by the BBC or in popular science books.

2. Earth and nature

Catholic civilisation has made a remarkable contribution to the scientific investigation and mapping of the earth, producing great explorers such as Marco Polo (d 1324), Prince Henry the Navigator (d 1460), Bartolomeu Dias (d 1500), Christopher Columbus (d 1506) and Ferdinand Magellan
(d 1521). Far from believing that the world was flat (a black legend invented in the 19th century), the Catholic world produced the first modern scientific map: Diogo Ribeiro’s Padrón Real (1527). Fr Nicolas Steno (d 1686) was the founder of stratigraphy, the interpretation of rock strata which is one of the principles of geology.

Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (d 1829), a French Catholic, developed the first theory of evolution, including the notion of the transmutation of species and a genealogical tree. The Augustinian monk Gregor Mendel (d 1884, pictured) founded the science of genetics based on the meticulous study of the inherited characteristics of some 29,000 pea plants.

3. Philosophy and theology

Catholicism regards philosophy as intrinsically good and was largely responsible for founding theology, the application of reason to what has been revealed supernaturally. Great Catholic philosophers include St Augustine (d 430), St Thomas Aquinas (d 1274), St Anselm (d 1109), Blessed Duns Scotus (d 1308), Suárez (d 1617) and Blaise Pascal (d 1662). Recent figures include St Edith Stein (d 1942, pictured), Elizabeth Anscombe (d 2001) and Alasdair MacIntyre. On the basis that God is a God of reason and love, Catholics have defended the irreducibility of the human person to matter, the principle that created beings can be genuine causes of their own actions, free will, the role of the virtues in happiness, objective good and evil, natural law and the principle of non-contradiction. These principles have had an incalculable influence on intellectual life and culture.

4. Education and the university system

Perhaps the greatest single contribution to education to emerge from Catholic civilisation was the development of the university system. Early Catholic universities include Bologna (1088); Paris (c 1150); Oxford (1167, pictured); Salerno (1173); Vicenza (1204); Cambridge (1209); Salamanca (1218-1219); Padua (1222); Naples (1224) and Vercelli (1228). By the middle of the 15th-century (more than 70 years before the Reformation), there were over 50 universities in Europe.

Many of these universities, such as Oxford, still show signs of their Catholic foundation, such as quadrangles modelled on monastic cloisters, gothic architecture and numerous chapels. Starting from the sixth-century Catholic Europe also developed what were later called grammar schools and, in the 15th century, produced the movable type printing press system, with incalculable benefits for education. Today, it has been estimated that Church schools educate more than 50 million students worldwide.

5. Art and architecture

Faith in the Incarnation, the Word made Flesh and the Sacrifice of the Mass have been the founding principles of extraordinary Catholic contributions to art and architecture. These contributions include: the great basilicas of ancient Rome; the work of Giotto (d 1337), who initiated a realism in painting the Franciscan Stations of the Cross, which helped to inspire three-dimensional art and drama; the invention of one-point linear perspective by Brunelleschi (d 1446) and the great works of the High Renaissance. The latter include the works of Blessed Fra Angelico (d 1455), today the patron saint of art, and the unrivalled work of Leonardo da Vinci (d 1519), Raphael (d 1520), Caravaggio (d 1610, pictured), Michelangelo (d 1564) and Bernini (d 1680). Many of the works of these artists, such as the Sistine Chapel ceiling, are considered among the greatest works of art of all time. Catholic civilisation also founded entire genres, such as Byzantine, Romanesque, Gothic, High Renaissance and Baroque architecture. The Cristo Redentor statue in Brazil and the Sagrada Familia basilica in Barcelona show that the faith continues to be an inspiration for highly original art and architecture.

6. Law and jurisprudence

The reforms of Pope Gregory VII (d 1085, pictured) gave impetus to forming the laws of the Church and states of Europe. The subsequent application of philosophy to law, together with the great works of monks like the 12th-century Gratian, produced the first complete, systematic bodies of law, in which all parts are viewed as interacting to form a whole. This revolution also led to the founding of law schools, starting in Bologna (1088), from which the legal profession emerged, and concepts such as “corporate personality”, the legal basis of a wide range of bodies today such as universities, corporations and trust funds. Legal principles such as “good faith”, reciprocity of rights, equality before the law, international law, trial by jury, habeas corpus and the obligation to prove an offence beyond a reasonable doubt are all fruits of Catholic civilisation and jurisprudence.

7. Language

The centrality of Greek and Latin to Catholicism has greatly facilitated popular literacy, since true alphabets are far easier to learn than the symbols of logographic languages, such as Chinese. Spread by Catholic missions and exploration, the Latin alphabet is now the most widely used alphabetic writing system in the world. Catholics also developed the Armenian, Georgian and Cyrillic alphabets and standard scripts, such as Carolingian minuscule from the ninth to 12th centuries, and Gothic miniscule (from the 12th). Catholicism also provided the cultural framework for the Divina Commedia (Divine Comedy), the Cantar de Mio Cid (“The Song of my Lord”) and La Chanson de Roland (The Song of Roland), vernacular works that greatly influenced the development of Italian, Spanish and French respectively. The Catholic Hymn of Cædmon in the seventh century is arguably the oldest extant text of Old English. Valentin Haüy (d 1822), brother of the Abbé Haüy (the priest who invented crystallography), founded the first school for the blind. The most famous student of this school, Louis Braille (d 1852), developed the worldwide system of writing for the blind that today bears his name.

8. Music

Catholic civilisation virtually invented the western musical tradition, drawing on Jewish antecedents in early liturgical music. Monophonic Gregorian chant developed from the sixth century. Methods for recording chant led to the invention of musical notion (staff notation), of incalculable benefit for the recording of music, and the ut-re-mi (“do-re-mi”) mnemonic device of Guido of Arezzo (d 1003). From the 10th century cathedral schools developed polyphonic music, extended later to as many as 40 voices (Tallis, Spem in Alium) and even 60 voices (Striggio, Missa Sopra Ecco).

Musical genres that largely or wholly originated with Catholic civilisation include the hymn, the oratorio and the opera. Haydn (d 1809), a devout Catholic, strongly shaped the development of the symphony and string quartet. Church patronage and liturgical forms shaped many works by Monteverdi (d 1643), Vivaldi (d 1741), Mozart (d 1791, pictured) and Beethoven (d 1827). The great Symphony No 8 of Mahler (d 1911) takes as its principal theme the ancient hymn of Pentecost, Veni creator spiritus.

9. The status of women

Contrary to popular prejudice, extraordinary and influential women have been one of the hallmarks of Catholic civilisation. The faith has honoured many women saints, including recent Doctors of the Church, and nurtured great nuns, such as St Hilda (d 680, pictured) (after whom St Hilda’s College, Oxford, is named) and Blessed Hildegard von Bingen (d 1179), abbess and polymath. Pioneering Catholic women in political life include Empress Matilda (d 1167), Eleanor of Aquitaine (d 1204) and the first Queen of England, Mary Tudor (d 1558).

Catholic civilisation also produced many of the first women scientists and professors: Trotula of Salerno in the 11th century, Dorotea Bucca (d 1436), who held a chair in medicine at the University of Bologna, Elena Lucrezia Piscopia (d 1684), the first woman to receive a Doctor of Philosophy degree (1678) and Maria Agnesi (d 1799), the first woman to become professor of mathematics, who was appointed by Pope Benedict XIV as early as 1750. END QUOTES

Commentary: History shows contributions of Catholic Church to Western civilization

By Thomas E. Woods

The Free Lance-Star (Fredericksburg, Va.)

Published: December 28, 2011 5:00 am

 

TOPEKA, Kan. — About the least fashionable thing one can do these days is utter a kind word about the Catholic Church. The idea that the church has been an obstacle to human progress has been elevated to the level of something everybody thinks he knows. But to the contrary, it is to the Catholic Church more than to any other institution that we owe so many of the treasures of Western civilization. Knowingly or not, scholars operated for two centuries under an Enlightenment prejudice that assumes all progress to come from religious skeptics, and that whatever the church touches is backward, superstitious, even barbaric.

Since the mid-20th century, this unscholarly prejudice has thankfully begun to melt away, and professors of a variety of religious backgrounds, or none at all, increasingly acknowledge the church's contributions.

Nowhere has the revision of what we thought we knew been more dramatic than in the study of the history of science. We all remember what we learned in fourth grade: While scientists were bravely trying to uncover truths about the universe and improve our quality of life, stupid churchmen who hated reason and simply wanted the faithful to shut up and obey placed a ceaseless stream of obstacles in their path.

That was where the conventional wisdom stood just over a century ago, with the publication of Andrew Dickson White's book, "A History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom," in 1896. And that's where most Americans (and Europeans, for that matter) believe it still stands.

But there is scarcely a historian of science in America who would endorse this comic-book version of events today. To the contrary, modern historians of science freely acknowledge the church's contributions — both theoretical and material — to the Scientific Revolution. It was the church's worldview that insisted the universe was orderly and operated according to certain fixed laws. Only buoyed with that confidence would it have made sense to bother investigating the physical world in the first place, or even to develop the scientific method (which can work only in an orderly world). It's likewise a little tricky to claim the church has been an implacable foe of the sciences when so many priests were accomplished scientists.

The first person to measure the rate of acceleration of a freely falling body was Father Giambattista Riccioli. The man who has been called the father of Egyptology was Father Athanasius Kircher. Father Roger Boscovich, who has been described as "the greatest genius that Yugoslavia ever produced," has often been called the father of modern atomic theory. In the sciences it was the Jesuits in particular who distinguished themselves; some 35 craters on the moon, in fact, are named after Jesuit scientists and mathematicians.

By the 18th century, writes historian Jonathan Wright, the Jesuits "had contributed to the development of pendulum clocks, pantographs, barometers, reflecting telescopes, and microscopes, to scientific fields as various as magnetism, optics, and electricity. They observed, in some cases before anyone else, the colored bands on Jupiter's surface, the Andromeda nebula, and Saturn's rings. They theorized about the circulation of the blood (independently of Harvey), the theoretical possibility of flight, the way the moon affected the tides, and the wave-like nature of light."

Their achievements likewise included "star maps of the southern hemisphere, symbolic logic, flood-control measures on the Po and Adige rivers, introducing plus and minus signs into Italian mathematics."

These were the great opponents of human progress?

Seismology, the study of earthquakes, has been so dominated by Jesuits that it has become known as "the Jesuit science." It was a Jesuit, Father J.B. Macelwane, who wrote the first seismology textbook in America in 1936. To this day, the American Geophysical Union, which Macelwane once headed, gives an annual medal named after this brilliant priest to a promising young geophysicist.

The Jesuits were also the first to introduce Western science into such far-off places as China and India. In 17th-century China in particular, Jesuits introduced a substantial body of scientific knowledge and a vast array of mental tools for understanding the physical universe, including the Euclidean geometry that made planetary motion comprehensible.

Jesuits made important contributions to the scientific knowledge and infrastructure of other less developed nations not only in Asia but also in Africa and Central and South America. Beginning in the 19th century, these continents saw the opening of Jesuit observatories that studied such fields as astronomy, geomagnetism, meteorology, seismology and solar physics. Such observatories provided these places with accurate time keeping, weather forecasts (particularly important in the cases of hurricanes and typhoons), earthquake risk assessments and cartography.

The early church also institutionalized the care of widows, orphans, the sick and the poor in ways unseen in classical Greece or Rome. Even her harshest critics, from the fourth-century emperor Julian the Apostate all the way to Martin Luther and Voltaire, conceded the church's enormous contributions to the relief of human misery.

The spirit of Catholic charity — that we help those in need not out of any expectation of reciprocity, but as a pure gift, and that we even help those who might not like us — finds no analogue in classical Greece and Rome, but it is this idea of charity that we continue to embrace today.

The university was an utterly new phenomenon in European history. Nothing like it had existed in ancient Greece or Rome. The institution that we recognize today, with its faculties, courses of study, examinations and degrees, as well as the familiar distinction between undergraduate and graduate study, come to us directly from the medieval world.

By the time of the Reformation, no secular government had chartered more universities than the church. Edward Grant, who has written on medieval science for Cambridge University Press, points out that intellectual life was robust and debate was vigorous at these universities — the very opposite of the popular presumption.

It is no surprise that the church should have done so much to foster and protect the nascent university system, since the church, according to historian Lowrie Daly, "was the only institution in Europe that showed consistent interest in the preservation and cultivation of knowledge."

Until the mid-20th century, the history of economic thought started, more or less, with the 18th century and Adam Smith. But beginning with Joseph Schumpeter, the great economist and historian of his field, scholars have begun to point instead to the 16th-century Catholic theologians at Spain's University of Salamanca as the originators of modern economics.

And the list goes on.

I can already hear the complaint: What about these awful things the church did that I heard about in school? For one thing, isn't it a little odd that we never heard any of the material I've presented here in school? Doesn't that seem a trifle unfair?

But although an episode like the medieval Inquisition has been dramatically scaled back in scope and cruelty by recent scholarship — the University of California at Berkeley, not exactly a bastion of traditional Catholicism, published a book substantially revising popular view — it is not my subject here. My aim is to point out, as I do in my book "How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization," how indebted we are, without realizing it, to an institution popular culture teaches us to despise. END QUOTES

11 Amazing Catholic Scientists You Should Know

SHAUN MCAFEEJUNE 19, 2015 

When it comes the Catholic Church and science all we tend to hear about is the Galileo affair. St. John Paul II apologized for various aspects the Church’s handling of Galileo, but it is a lot more complicated than post-modern scientists like to let on. Galileo is a way for Rationalists to assault faith. It is to paint the Church as anti-science and superstitious. To be sure, there are some Christians who are anti-science, who have accepted a false concordism. That is not the Catholic Church’s position. In fact, the Church has its own scientific wing, namely the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, which not only welcomes the work of Catholics, but people of many faiths, including atheists. For now let’s abandon this tired narrative and look at 11 groundbreaking Catholic scientists, many of whom were priests.*

 1. Copernicus (1473–1543)

Remember Copernicus?! The Catholic priest who practiced medicine and then went into astronomy developing heliocentrism. He discovered that the earth is not the center of the universe, not even of this solar system. He is believed to have entered the priesthood later in life. His contributions to astronomy revolutionized the field and the world.

 2. Albertus Magnus, O.P. (before 1200 – 1280)

What’s a list of major intellectual achievements without a Dominican or two on the list?! Fr. Albertus Magnus is the patron saint of the natural sciences and a Doctor of the Church because of his great work in in physics, logic, metaphysics, biology, and psychology.

3. Georges Lemaître (1894–1966)

Fr. Lemaitre with his colleague, Albert Einstein.

Belgian priest and father of the Big Bang Theory. Fr. Lemaitre was a contemporary of, and based his work on Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity. Lemaitre also spent time serving as the Director of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences.

 4. Gregor Mendel (1822-1884)

Gregor Mendel was an Augustinian Friar who was the founder of the modern science of genetics. Yep! The study of genetics was started by a Catholic priest. If you have taken a science class and had to learn the terms “recessive” and “dominant” it is thanks to Fr. Mendel.

 5. Giuseppe Mercalli (1850–1914) 

Priest, volcanologist, and director of the Vesuvius Observatory who is best remembered today for his Mercalli scale for measuring earthquakes which is still in use. Yes, the scientific inquiry of Catholics knows no bounds, even volcanoes and earthquakes have been studied.

 6. William of Ockham (c. 1288 – c. 1348)

Have you heard of Ockham’s Razor? He is the Franciscan Scholastic who wrote significant works on logic, physics, and theology; known for Ockham’s Razor. Yet, another Catholic priest’s whose work had a huge impact on the natural sciences.

 7. Giovanni Battista Riccioli (1598–1671) 

Jesuit astronomer who authored Almagestum novum, an influential encyclopedia of astronomy. He was the first person to measure the rate of acceleration of a freely falling body; created a selenograph with Father Grimaldi who now adorns the entrance at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C. Catholic priests remembered at the Smithsonian!

 8. Francesco Maria Grimaldi (1618 – 1663)

There are a lot of Jesuit priest-scientists! Fr. Grimaldi was an Italian Jesuit priest, mathematician and physicist who taught at the Jesuit college in Bologna. A crater on the moon is named Grimaldi after him.

 9. Nicolas Steno (1638-1686)

Nicholas Steno made great strides in anatomy and geology. He eventually became a Catholic Bishop. Various parts of the body are named after him: Stensen’s duct, Stensen’s gland, Stensen’s vein, and Stensen’s foramina. He is also the founder of the study of fossils.

 10. George V. Coyne, S.J. (born January 19, 1933)

George Coyne, S.J.
wiki imageMount Graham International Observatory (MGIO) is one of the observatories used for the Vatican’s scientific inquiries.

How about somebody current? Fr. Coyne is a Jesuit priest, astronomer, and former director of the Vatican Observatory and head of the observatory’s research group which is based at the University of Arizona in Tucson, Arizona. Since January 2012, he has served as McDevitt Chair of Religious Philosophy at Le Moyne College in Syracuse, NY.

 11. Fr. Stanley Jaki (1914-2009)

Stanley Jaki, O.S.B
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Fr. Jaki was a Hungarian Benedictine priest and Distinguished Professor of Physics at Seton Hall University, New Jersey. He most notably taught that science developed out of Christianity and he bridged the divide in the manufactured division between science and faith. You can read about his teaching in the book Science Was Born of Christianity by Stacy Trasancos.

 One of the best ways to become more acquainted with the Catholic Church’s position on science and faith, is to read the encyclical Humani Generis as well as Fides et Ratio.

The next time someone accuses the Church of being anti-science, be sure to share the great scientific advances that have occurred throughout history thanks to Catholic scientists, including a great many who were priests. SCIENCE!!!!   END QUOTES

For the sake of TRUTH, I would also point out that without the RCC; there would be NO “Christianity”.  …The RCC is the One desired, founded, by Jesus Personally, and protected by the Holy Spirit.  …Where in the Bible {a Catholic Book BTW} did God ever show a desire or even a tolerance for competing Churches and Faiths?

If the RCC is not the One True Church and Faith of Jesus Himself {which is historically and Biblically provable}; then which one is; based upon what evidence.

One practices prudence to exercise prayerful-wisdom when contemplating slandering the RCC, as doing so; even  though unintentionally, is a direct affront on Jesus Himself.

So did Jesus LIE, or is the Bible wrong? {The Apostles were ALL Catholics!}

Mt. 10: 1-5 [1] And having called his twelve disciples together, he gave them power over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of diseases, and all manner of infirmities. [2] And the names of the twelve apostles are these: The first, Simon who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, [3] James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, Philip and Bartholomew, Thomas and Matthew the publican, and James the son of Alpheus, and Thaddeus, [4] Simon the Cananean, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him. [5] These twelve Jesus sent: commanding them, saying: Go ye not into the way of the Gentiles, and into the city of the Samaritans enter ye not.”

Mt. 16: 18-19  [18]And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH {singular} , and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it[19] And I will give to YOU the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever YOU shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever YOU shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

John 17: 17-21 [17] Sanctify THEM in truth. Thy word is truth. [18] As thou hast sent ME  into the world, I also have SENT THEM into the world. [19] And FOR THEM do I sanctify myself, that THEY also may be sanctified in {MY} truth. [20] And not FOR THEM only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me; [21] That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. “{Thus the RCC alone and exclusively has Jesus himself in Person as the warranty of teaching His TRUTHS, without error: no other church or faith can make this claim and evidence it!}

Mt. 28:18-20  [18] And Jesus coming, spoke to THEM, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach YOU all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. [20] Teaching them to observe ALL THINGS whatsoever I have commanded YOU: and behold I am with YOU all days, even to the consummation of the world.

DOUAY BIBLE EXPLANATION:[18] "All power": See here the warrant and commission of the apostles and their successors, the bishops and pastors of Christ's church. He received from his Father all power in heaven and in earth: and in virtue of this power, he sends them (even as his Father sent him, St. John 20. 21) to teach and disciple, not one, but all nations; and instruct them in all truths: and that he may assist them effectually in the execution of this commission, he promises to be with them, not for three or four hundred years only, but all days, even to the consummation of the world. How then could the Catholic Church ever go astray; having always with her pastors, as is here promised, Christ himself, who is the way, the truth, and the life. St. John 14.

Eph. 4: 1-7 [1] I therefore, a prisoner in the Lord, beseech you that you walk worthy of the vocation in which you are called, [2] With all humility and mildness, with patience, supporting one another in charity[3] Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. [4] One body  {Means just One “Church”] and one Spirit; as you are called in one hope of your calling. [5] One Lord, one faith, {Means precisely and exclusively THAT; Just ONE set of Faith beliefs} one baptism.[6] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in US ALL {Means at the time of authorship: ALL Catholics}[7] But to every one of us is given grace, according to the measure of the giving of Christ.”

Eph. 2: 20 “ [20] Built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone”

 

 

Now to you POSTING:

I will not bother you with a detailed response as none is warranted. However there are a few errors I’d like to point out to you; lest you spread these errors further.

Before doing so I should point out that some of the items ARE Church Practices; which ARE changeable, while Doctrines are not.

#7: Latin has been since the 4th Century OFFICIALLY claimed ass the “Official” language of the Church. I was a common language lone before that

#10. The PRACTICE is to kiss the RING of the Pope; NOT his feet

#12 Began long before the date shown

#15 NEEDS to be changed to The Use of Bells in Sacred Liturgy {has nothing to do with Sacramental Baptism}

#17 a Practice

#21 I think you have the dates wrong: it was later than stated

#22 Is biblically grounded by 5 different authors of the Bibles NT and Jesus Himself. ONLY the new theological TERM was invented; NOT the reality; NOT the Practice.

#25 RESPONCE

The Bible and the layman
Question from Joe Bateman on 01-09-2003:

I had sent this to you before but you did not respond. I don't know if it was zapped into cyberspace, or you don't have a response. I will try again:

You have had many questions of late about the Roman Church and the Bible as it pertains to the laity. You insist that Rome has never withheld the Bible from the common man, I believe that history speaks against this. For example in 1229 the Council of Valencia put the Bible on the index of Forbidden books stating," We prohibit also the permitting of the laity, to have the books of the Old and New Testament, unless any one should wish to have a psalter or breviary for divine service...But we strictly forbid the above mentioned books in the vulgar tongue." The Council of Trent reaffirmed this decree. Clement XI also affirmed this in his Bull Unigenitus in 1713. I believe Leo XII in the 1890's allowed the laity to read the Bible but only the Latin Vulgate and only with permission, and the Pope forbid you try to interpret the Bible by yourself, the laity are not able. Of course they probably couldn't read Latin either. I will grant you that the Bible is and was read in the church, but only by the priest, and than with the Rome's interpretation thereof. That is an argument for another day though. (I thought God sent his Holy Spirit to guide us.) In closing, I don't see how you could say that the Bible has always been available to the Roman lay person. Thanks for your insight. God Bless

Answer by Matthew Bunson on 01-10-2003:

Please do not consider any comments here as a personal criticism or attack. However, as has been noted in previous postings, the historical facts and documents themselves simply do not support your contention. Owing to deliberate misinterpretations, mistranslations from the original Latin, or misunderstandings of the papal and conciliar documents, attacks such as the one you note have been made over the years. The reality is quite different.

I will re-state -- Catholics have not been denied the Scriptures. The documents you cite, further, do not support the contention being made that the Church prevented Catholics from reading the Bible. I will not bore readers with every document mentioned, but I would encourage them to read several previous postings relative to the decrees of Pope Leo XIII. I will offer, by way of example, several paragraphs regarding the Scriptures from Unigenitus of 1713 by Pope Clement XI that is listed above as "proof":

"84. To snatch away from the hands of Christians the New Testament, or to hold it closed against them by taking away from them the means of understanding it, is to close for them the mouth of Christ.

85. To forbid Christians to read Sacred Scripture, especially the Gospels, is to forbid the use of light to the sons of light, and to cause them to suffer a kind of excommunication."

I do not think that it can be much clearer than that, and Clement was speaking from traditional and unchanging Church teachings. For anyone who thinks this might be propaganda, I encourage them to read the document for themselves at www.papalencyclicals.net or through EWTN's extensive library resources on-line. 

COPYRIGHT 2003 by EWTN   

 

#29 The RCC is the One & TRUE Church Founded by Jesus Himself; and is biblically {before or around 100AD} provable and also proven in secular history

#31 Purgatory is in the bible right next to the term “BIBLE,” so it too dates to the 1st Century.

#32 The Seven Sacraments were ALL Instituted by Jesus Christ; so they to date to the 1st Century

#34 is just ignorance spread: The CC has NEVER taught what you claim here

#37 in reality {the life of the Church} this dates in written form at least to the 4th Century; and was believed and practiced from the very beginning of the RCC. Your date is when it was being questioned and made a Dogma.

#39 The Bible Luke 1:26-37 PROOFS Mary as the Mother of God

So please make these corrections before spreading more incorrect information.

 

Shalom!

May God guide our paths,

Patrick

Oh! By the way: the practice is to kiss the RING of then Pope; NOT his feet. In deference of his exalted position.  

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The contention that the apostles were "Catholic", as per denominational Catholic (capital 'C') is nonsense. That they were catholic, (small 'c') in a sense that they considered the salvation of God toward men universal, is debatable, at least in their early growth. But by no means were they 'denominationally' Catholic, and certainly not institutionally Catholic. Nor were those 3000 odd saved at Pentecost, the ones from so many cultures and languages and nations who took their new found faith home and were the first true missionaries or evangelists. Thus the gospel spread to all the world; to Ethiopia (via Philip's talk to the Ethiopian official), to Asia, India, Britain, even to China, long before there was any denominational or institutional religion set up in Rome, the "Catholic" church, capital 'C'.

The apostle Paul spoke of a falling away from the faith to take place shortly after he would be gone. This falling away began in the second century, even within the second generation of Christians.  He told the Thessalonian church in his letter that he had spoken previously on this matter, informing them as to who was instrumental in holding back the rise of Antichrist, thus completing the 'falling away' he was warning them of. Pagan Rome was that instrument, and when she fell, Papal Rome arose on the ashes of pagan Rome, inheriting her titles and throne, thus completing the apostasy and falling away Paul warned of.  

Meanwhile the true catholic faith spread throughout the world and became the living rebuke to the apostate church developing in Rome, and which became Rome's target for persecution and destruction for over 1000 years. 

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15 hours ago, brakelite said:

The contention that the apostles were "Catholic", as per denominational Catholic (capital 'C') is nonsense. That they were catholic, (small 'c') in a sense that they considered the salvation of God toward men universal, is debatable, at least in their early growth. But by no means were they 'denominationally' Catholic, and certainly not institutionally Catholic. Nor were those 3000 odd saved at Pentecost, the ones from so many cultures and languages and nations who took their new found faith home and were the first true missionaries or evangelists. Thus the gospel spread to all the world; to Ethiopia (via Philip's talk to the Ethiopian official), to Asia, India, Britain, even to China, long before there was any denominational or institutional religion set up in Rome, the "Catholic" church, capital 'C'.

The apostle Paul spoke of a falling away from the faith to take place shortly after he would be gone. This falling away began in the second century, even within the second generation of Christians.  He told the Thessalonian church in his letter that he had spoken previously on this matter, informing them as to who was instrumental in holding back the rise of Antichrist, thus completing the 'falling away' he was warning them of. Pagan Rome was that instrument, and when she fell, Papal Rome arose on the ashes of pagan Rome, inheriting her titles and throne, thus completing the apostasy and falling away Paul warned of.  

Meanwhile the true catholic faith spread throughout the world and became the living rebuke to the apostate church developing in Rome, and which became Rome's target for persecution and destruction for over 1000 years. 

YEP and SHE IS UP TO IT AGAIN .    Where you think THIS ALL inclusive ROME LED relgoin will lead too .    The largest world wide persecution against the few true lambs .

She has killed before and she will kill again .    SHE is a MURDERER , A ROBBER and A THEIF .   

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On 7/16/2018 at 7:26 PM, Patrick Miron said:

2.    Did Jesus Lie or is the Bible in error?

Neither.  The Catholic church is in error in its unenlightened interpretation.  It is the Catholic church that lies.  The popes lie.  The fact that they think a person is going to hell if they leave the catholic church indicates that it is a cult.  The fact that they must falsely read this into the Scriptures and twist them as Satan did with Jesus in the wilderness is an indication where these lies come from.  Perhaps you are deceived.  Each time I encounter these false arguments I am even more convinced that people should avoid the Roman Catholic church at all costs in order to be saved and to not be deceived as you have been.  

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22 hours ago, Willa said:

Neither.  The Catholic church is in error in its unenlightened interpretation.  It is the Catholic church that lies.  The popes lie.  The fact that they think a person is going to hell if they leave the catholic church indicates that it is a cult.  The fact that they must falsely read this into the Scriptures and twist them as Satan did with Jesus in the wilderness is an indication where these lies come from.  Perhaps you are deceived.  Each time I encounter these false arguments I am even more convinced that people should avoid the Roman Catholic church at all costs in order to be saved and to not be deceived as you have been.  

 

 

   Did Jesus Lie or is the Bible in error?

Neither.  [1} The Catholic church is in error in its unenlightened interpretation. [2]   It is the Catholic church that lies. [3] The popes lie. [4] The fact that they think a person is going to hell if they leave the catholic church indicates that it is a cult.  [5] The fact that they must falsely read this into the Scriptures and twist them as Satan did with Jesus in the wilderness is an indication where these lies come from. [6] Perhaps you are deceived.  [7]Each time I encounter these false arguments I am even more convinced that people should avoid the Roman Catholic church [8] at all costs in order to be saved and to not be deceived as you have been

My friend then tenor of your post the tenor of you POST hints of Slander. Not a good thing. I do sense your sincerity though and will reply briefly to each of your points which I have numbered to make it easy to follow along.  

I’m going to guess that you’re a member of some Baptist Bible Church? {I once heard John MacArthur teach “it’s OK to hate Catholics”} still I am NOT saying that is necessary a bad thing.

Lk. 6:  [32] And if you love them that love you, what thanks are to you? for sinners also love those that love them. …. [35] But love ye your enemies” 

John 13:  [34] A new commandment I give unto you: That you love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another. [35] By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love one for another.

[1] “The Catholic church is in error in its unenlightened interpretation”

Friend; are you aware that the Bible is a Catholic Birthed Book? It was Catholic Fathers who guided by the Holy Spirit selected amidst very much debate; the 46 OT Books to be included. Then it was Catholic Men {including 5 Apostles; Matthew, Peter, John, James and Paul} who authored the entire NEW Testament’s 27 books. It was the RCC that set the Canon of the Bible that still exist today in the late 4th Century. … All of this is historically verifiable; hence not debatable.

So your position is that the Church that gave you and the world the Bible is incompetent to {alone} interpret if fully and correctly? Hmmmm Mt. 28:18-20 [18] And Jesus coming, spoke to THEM saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach YOU all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost[20] Teaching them to observe ALL THINGS whatsoever I have commanded YOU and behold I am with YOU all days, even to the consummation of the world.”

DOUAY BIBLE COMMENTARY: [18] "All power": See here the warrant and commission of the apostles and their successors, the bishops and pastors of Christ's church. He received from his Father all power in heaven and in earth: and in virtue of this power, he sends them (even as his Father sent him, St. John 20. 21) to teach and disciple, not one, but all nations; and instruct them in all truths: and that he may assist them effectually in the execution of this commission, he promises to be with them, not for three or four hundred years only, but all days, even to the consummation of the world. How then could the Catholic Church ever go astray; having always with her pastors, as is here promised, Christ himself, who is the way, the truth, and the life. St. John 14.”

So your position seems tenuous.

[2] “It is the Catholic church that lies”

Could you please be more specific? As stated this is just your own subjective opinion.

As a point of elucidation for you: the Bible was fully authored by the end of the 1st Century {about 1,500 years prior to the Reformation, and Luther and Calvin}and all of the early Christians were in fact “Catholic-Christians” until 1054 and the Great Eastern Schism. … Hence a proper reading of the Bible is that it was a book “by” Catholics and intended at that time {of assembly and authorship} exclusively FOR Catholics. .. Another historical undebatable fact.

John 17: 17:20 [17] Sanctify THEM in {My}  truth. Thy word is truth. [18] As thou hast sent ME into the world, I also have SENT THEM into the world. [19] And for THEM do I sanctify myself, that they also may be sanctified in {my} truth[20] And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me” …. Hence the today’s RCC is the only Church & the Only Faith that can claim with veracity to have Jesus Christ Himself as the Personal Witness of Her Teaching fully, and truthfully; all teaching on Faith beliefs and Moral matters. And that friend is Jesus Christ talking, not me, not the Church and NOT the Pope.

. [3] The popes lie

Please see and reread the above unless you have some specific information to share? NOTE that Jesus Himself protects the Pope when he teaches officially on matters of Faith and Morals ONLY.

. [4] The fact that they think a person is going to hell if they leave the catholic church indicates that it is a cult.

OK {?} so I’ll ask again: Did Jesus Lie or is the Bible wrong in teaching exactly WHAT THE BIBLE SAY’S?

Hebrews 6:4-8 “[4] For it is impossible for those who were once illuminated, {MEANS BAPTIZED}have tasted also the heavenly gift,{JESUS HIMSELF IN CATHOLIC HOLY COMMUNION} and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,[SACRAMENTAL CONFIRMATION}  [5] Have moreover tasted the good word of God,{Been actually instructed in God’s truths} and the powers of the world to come,

DOUAY COMMENTARY[1] "The word of the beginning": The first rudiments of the Christian doctrine.

[4] "It is impossible": The meaning is, that it is impossible for such as have fallen after baptism, to be again baptized; and very hard for such as have apostatized from the faith, after having received many graces, to return again to the happy state from which they fell.

[6] And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance,{RECEIVED SACRAMENTAL CONFESSIOPN :JOHN: 20:1923}

crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery[7] For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God[8] But that which bringeth forth thorns and briers, is reprobate, and very near unto a curse, whose end is to be burnt.”        Very near ONLY because they CAN choose to Repent and Convert at any time BEFORE death.” Otherwise it’s a done deal!

[5] The fact that they must falsely read this into the Scriptures and twist them as Satan did with Jesus in the wilderness is an indication where these lies come from.

Please reread #2 again

[6] Perhaps you are deceived

May I humbly suggest that sense I have evidenced each of my points that perhaps it is you who is being deceived. There can be only One True God {the 1st Commandment”; even GOD can have only one true faith {Eph 4:5}and Just was Yahweh had just “One Chosen People” {Exo. 6:7}; JESUS chose to have only One True Church {Mt 16:18”}. So a question for you: Could Jesus have waited for 16th century Apostate Catholic Monk Martin Luther and or John Calvin some 1,500 years AFTER the Bible was authored to make what can only be SINGULAR truths per defined issue known?...... Hmmmmmm

If the RCC is not the One True Church and Faith then which one of the thousands of Protestant churches IS? On WHAT evidence?

[7]Each time I encounter these false arguments I am even more convinced that people should avoid the Roman Catholic church

In which case you would be advising “people” to avoid the ONLY Church and  Faith Desires; Founded and Protected by GOD Himself. It is only by God’s Grace and protection that the RCC after 2,000 years STILL HAS JUST ONE SET OF FAITH beliefs; while Protestants after 500 years have thousands of version…..Go figure.

[8 ] at all costs in order to be saved and to not be deceived as you have been

Friend, sadly it is You and so many more like you that are being deceived. Take note of the FACT that I provided evidence for all of the points you raised; why you only leveled subjective-slanderous charges…. THERE is a place for logic and common sense here.

May God guide your path, thank you for doing wha you have been taught is “Right.”

Patrick   

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It is slander to indicate that either the Bible is in error or Christ lies.  It is your interpretation that lies.  Only the Holy Spirit can open your eyes to the deception.  

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One could fill a warehouse with Catholic errors.Only one is needed to show an absolute cluelessness about what Christianity is about.The belief in purgatory.one would be hard-pressed to find a better way to trample the Blood Of Christ.A fairy tale straight from Hell.

 

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