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14 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

After reading the article I think it is what I would call "click bate".   

Did you see the link to the California bill concerning that articles claim? It's real. :( 

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11 minutes ago, WalkingMyFishLikeABoss said:

Did you see the link to the California bill concerning that articles claim? It's real. :( 

Yes the bill is real, what the article claims it does is not real.  

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1 hour ago, WalkingMyFishLikeABoss said:

Did you see the link to the California bill concerning that articles claim? It's real. :( 

What I mean by click bate" is not that it is not real. That this is Cal. marriage law. But it has been given a title  about Pedos being allowed to marry children. When if you read the actual law of Cal posted from my link. That is not the case here.  Just look up Cal. Marriage law and see what it says. 

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15 hours ago, Running Gator said:

Yes the bill is real, what the article claims it does is not real.  

Please read the article again. It does not say the bill is not real. The remarks are reported as one person saying they thought it can't be true. There is nothing in the article that says the bill is not real.

From that article: While SB273 is still alive and moving through legislative committees, amendments have removed any age restriction. The measure in its current form increases family court oversight to ensure that a minor’s marriage isn’t coerced, including a requirement that judges interview individuals privately.

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14 hours ago, LadyKay said:

What I mean by click bate" is not that it is not real. That this is Cal. marriage law. But it has been given a title  about Pedos being allowed to marry children. When if you read the actual law of Cal posted from my link. That is not the case here.  Just look up Cal. Marriage law and see what it says. 

I looked up the bill in question that seeks to amend. :) 

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5 minutes ago, WalkingMyFishLikeABoss said:

Please read the article again. It does not say the bill is not real. The remarks are reported as one person saying they thought it can't be true. There is nothing in the article that says the bill is not real.

From that article: While SB273 is still alive and moving through legislative committees, amendments have removed any age restriction. The measure in its current form increases family court oversight to ensure that a minor’s marriage isn’t coerced, including a requirement that judges interview individuals privately.

There is nothing in the bill that would allow pedophiles to marry 10 year olds. 

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16 minutes ago, Running Gator said:

There is nothing in the bill that would allow pedophiles to marry 10 year olds. 

You clearly did not read the bill.

I hope other members here do take the time before commenting. :) 

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18 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

The bill actually doesn't specify an age though; I read the entire thing. This is the only change to the existing law: 

302.

 (a) An unmarried person under 18 years of age is capable of consenting to and consummating marriage may be issued a marriage license upon obtaining a court order granting permission to the underage person or persons to marry, in accordance with the requirements described in Section 304.

Did you click the tab, today's law as amended?  https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB273
Full text.

SECTION 1.

 Section 302 of the Family Code is amended to read:
 
302.
 (a) An unmarried person under 18 years of age is capable of consenting to and consummating marriage  may be issued a marriage license  upon obtaining a court order granting permission to the underage person or persons to marry. marry, in accordance with the requirements described in Section 304. 
(b) The court order and written consent of at least one of the parents or the guardian of each underage person shall be filed with the clerk of the court, and a certified copy of the order shall be presented to the county clerk at the time the marriage license is issued.

SEC. 2.

 Section 303 of the Family Code is amended to read:
 
303.
 If it appears to the satisfaction of the court by application of a minor that the minor requires a written consent to marry and that the minor has no parent or has no parent capable of consenting, the court may make an order consenting to the issuance of a marriage license and granting permission to the minor to marry.  marry, in accordance with the requirements described in Section 304.  The order shall be filed with the clerk of the court and a certified copy of the order shall be presented to the county clerk at the time the marriage license is issued.

SEC. 3.

 Section 304 of the Family Code is amended to read:
 
304.
 (a) In determining whether to issue a court order granting permission to marry pursuant to Section 302 or 303, the court shall do all of the following:
(1) Require Family Court Services to separately interview the parties intending to marry and, if applicable, at least one of the parents or the guardian of each party who is a minor. If more than one parent or guardian is interviewed, the parents or guardians shall be interviewed separately.
(2) Require Family Court Services to prepare and submit to the court a written report, containing any finding of potential force, threat, persuasion, fraud, coercion, or duress by either of the parties or their family members relating to the intended marriage. The report shall also contain recommendations of Family Court Services for either granting or denying the parties permission to marry. If Family Court Services knows or reasonably suspects that either party is a victim of child abuse or neglect, Family Court Services shall submit a report of the known or suspected child abuse or neglect to the county child protective services agency.
(3) After receiving the report of the findings and recommendations of Family Court Services, as described in paragraph (2), separately interview in camera each of the parties prior to making a final determination regarding the court order.
(4) Consider whether there is evidence of coercion or undue influence on the minor.
(b) If the court issues an order granting the parties permission to marry pursuant to Section 302 or 303, the parties shall be eligible to request a marriage license no earlier than one month from the time the court order was issued.
(c)  As part of the court order granting permission to marry under Section 302 or 303, the court shall, if it considers it necessary, require the parties to the prospective marriage of a minor to participate in premarital counseling concerning social, economic, and personal responsibilities incident to marriage. The parties shall not be required, without their consent, to confer with counselors provided by religious organizations of any denomination. In determining whether to order the parties to participate in the premarital counseling, the court shall consider, among other factors, the ability of the parties to pay for the counseling. The court may impose a reasonable fee to cover the cost of any premarital counseling provided by the county or the court. The fees shall be used exclusively to cover the cost of the counseling services authorized by this section.
(d) Upon issuance of the order granting permission to marry, the minor shall be provided with the following information:
(1) The rights and responsibilities of an emancipated minor, including, but not limited to, the effects of emancipation as described in Sections 7050 to 7052, inclusive.
(2) (A) The circumstances under which a marriage may be determined by a court to be void or voidable and adjudged a nullity and the procedure for obtaining that judicial determination.
(B) The procedures for legal separation or dissolution of marriage.
(3) Telephone numbers for the National Domestic Violence Hotline and the National Sexual Assault Hotline.
(4) The conditions under which an unemancipated minor may leave home and seek to remain in a shelter or otherwise live separately from his or her parent or guardian, and whether the consent or acquiescence of a parent or guardian is required to remain away from the home of the parent or guardian, the rights of an unemancipated minor to apply for a protective or restraining order to prevent abuse, and the rights of a minor to enter into contracts, including contracts for legal services and mental health counseling.

SEC. 4.

 Section 1501 of the Family Code is amended to read:
 
1501.
 A minor may make a valid premarital agreement or other marital property agreement if the minor is emancipated or  emancipated,  is otherwise capable of contracting marriage. marriage pursuant to Section 302 or 303, or has entered or is entering a marriage that is valid in the jurisdiction where the marriage is solemnized. 

SEC. 5.

 Section 2210 of the Family Code is amended to read:
 
2210.
 A marriage is voidable and may be adjudged a nullity if any of the following conditions existed at the time of the marriage:
(a) The party who commences the proceeding or on whose behalf the proceeding is commenced was without the capability of consenting to the marriage as provided in Section 301 or 302, unless, after attaining the age of consent, the party for any time freely cohabited with the other as his or her spouse. under 18 years of age, unless the party entered into the marriage pursuant to Section 302 or 303. 
(b) The spouse of either party was living and the marriage with that spouse was then in force and that spouse (1) was absent and not known to the party commencing the proceeding to be living for a period of five successive years immediately preceding the subsequent marriage for which the judgment of nullity is sought or (2) was generally reputed or believed by the party commencing the proceeding to be dead at the time the subsequent marriage was contracted.
(c) Either party was of unsound mind, unless the party of unsound mind, after coming to reason, freely cohabited with the other as his or her spouse.
(d) The consent of either party was obtained by fraud, unless the party whose consent was obtained by fraud afterwards, with full knowledge of the facts constituting the fraud, freely cohabited with the other as his or her spouse.
(e) The consent of either party was obtained by force, unless the party whose consent was obtained by force afterwards freely cohabited with the other as his or her spouse.
(f) Either party was, at the time of marriage, physically incapable of entering into the marriage state, and that incapacity continues, and appears to be incurable.
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