SAS Posted July 18, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 9 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2017 Is Baptism required for salvation... And if Yes or No... What part does it have...do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK1110 Posted July 19, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6,828 Content Per Day: 2.43 Reputation: 9,555 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/18/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/10/1986 Share Posted July 19, 2017 No, but it's not really considered as an optional thing Biblically. If you don't do it afterwards, you have to ask yourself why. For some, there's a legitimate reason; my own physical disability has prevented me from doing so...yet. But if you're able and choose not to, why? It's a public confession of your private conviction and decision to follow God. If we're not willing to make that public confession, what does that say about how much we've really changed and really committed ourselves? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 2 Posted July 19, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 499 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 277 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/06/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) On 7/18/2017 at 9:42 AM, SAS said: Is Baptism required for salvation... And if Yes or No... What part does it have...do? No it's not but it has a lot to do with a wonderful life in the Kingdom of God. Take a look at the circumstances surrounding Jesus baptism. Mat 3:14  But John tried to stop him, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and are you coming to me?" Mat 3:15  But Jesus answered him, "Let it be this way for now, because this is the proper way for us to fulfill all righteousness." Jesus has given us a hint in those words, and we see about what when we notice what happened after his public declaration. He was tempted in the face of that and.. He started his ministry. It's interesting that we see that baptism is significant in the beginning and then at the end of our Lords ministry. Look at what his last words were. Mat 28:19  Therefore, as you go, disciple people in all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, Mat 28:20  teaching them to obey everything that I've commanded you. And remember, I am with you each and every day until the end of the age." If we don't obey the simple instruction to be baptized, what hope do we have of responding in faith to the greater things God wants to call us to. This is the meat and potatoes of what James is talking about in Jas. 2:14-26 ( I don't want to get side tracked with the  James passage but what James is saying IS NOT that you have  to do works for salvation, rather, he is saying what BK1110 is saying, if you're not ya gotta wonder if you really have faith in God) Edited July 19, 2017 by Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 2 Posted July 19, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 499 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 277 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/06/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2017 13 hours ago, BK1110 said: No, but it's not really considered as an optional thing Biblically. If you don't do it afterwards, you have to ask yourself why. For some, there's a legitimate reason; my own physical disability has prevented me from doing so...yet. But if you're able and choose not to, why? It's a public confession of your private conviction and decision to follow God. If we're not willing to make that public confession, what does that say about how much we've really changed and really committed ourselves? Hey BK1110 I don't know what your disability is and I say this with sincerity. Get someone you know is a believer to baptize you, pour a cup of water on you, drip some water from a rag, doesn't matter. I believe that it's the ACT of the baptism done from a confessing soul that shows it's willingness in whatever way they can, that God honors. I suppose there are some theologians that are going to argue that you have to be hanging upside down with a Bat suit on as opposed to a Spiderman suit or any one of a dozen other "correct" ways. I say poopoo to them, don't let their understanding take this away from you. You do this with someone and with a love for the Lord in your heart and I believe it's legitimate. Blessings brother.  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinitin Posted July 20, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,366 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,149 Days Won: 9 Joined: 01/10/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 8:42 AM, SAS said: Is Baptism required for salvation... And if Yes or No... What part does it have...do? Hello welcome to worthy chat. great question and topic:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Tree Posted July 20, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 2 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 6:42 AM, SAS said: Is Baptism required for salvation... And if Yes or No... What part does it have...do? Check out what St. Paul wrote. Acts 17 24: The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by man, 25: nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all men life and breath and everything.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted July 20, 2017 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 208 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Divine Tree said: Check out what St. Paul wrote. Acts 17 24: The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by man, 25: nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all men life and breath and everything.  Welcome~! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bible_Gazer Posted July 22, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 450 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/05/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 22, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 9:42 AM, SAS said: Is Baptism required for salvation... And if Yes or No... What part does it have...do? Yes Mark 16:15-16 15 Â And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 Â He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Obeying is why you do it, and that is important for salvation. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Posted July 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,727 Content Per Day: 1.05 Reputation: 2,305 Days Won: 5 Joined: 06/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 22, 2017 Luke 3:16 Â John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 22, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 22, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 6:42 AM, SAS said: Is Baptism required for salvation... And if Yes or No... What part does it have...do? No, baptism is not required for salvation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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