Last Daze Posted July 28, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, brakelite said: Thing is though the Bible says nothing about any 'renovation' particularly as it would be of a temporary nature... Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind....thus clearly refers to far more than a simple renovation, as anyone would be constantly reminded of the former earth if there were still sacrifices, potential for sin, and constant evidence of the recent past destruction. 2Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. ...this is the true promise and that which ultimately is our hope:not a 1000 year temporary fix-up. The new heavens, after passing away with a great noise and with fervent heat and fire, is totally and completely recreated. Same with the earth. And when does that take place? No where does the Bible say that the 1000 years is an earthly rule. What the Bible does say is that when Jesus returns for His bride, as has been demonstrated throughout Middle Eastern tradition, He, the Bridegroo, takes them to His home. John 14:1-3 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. The main thing for each of us is to be ready for His return. The rest will work itself out, according to His will, not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakelite Posted July 28, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 977 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Last Daze said: The main thing for each of us is to be ready for His return. The rest will work itself out, according to His will, not ours. Now that I can agree with. The problem today is that the bride doesn't want to wear the wedding garment. She keeps altering the pattern and trying on the latest fashions..... Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixerupper Posted July 28, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 430 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 131 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2017 Not that I believe everything here but you might get an idea here.... "Why Jesus Christ will return in the year 2030 Even more Biblical evidence that points to the year 2030 Establishing the year of Christ’s death and resurrection is key The Tribulation begins in 2023 and 7 years of plenty in 2016 Timeline Chart for the 2030 Second Coming of Christ What about Imminence, can Jesus really come at any time? Quickly proving the Seventh Trumpet/Post-Tribulation Rapture Quickly disproving the pre-Tribulation rapture/invisible return Why all prophetic dreams, visions and words today are false The invisible return of Christ is found nowhere in the Bible Contradicting the Bible: “Rapture is not the Second Coming” The battle of Jericho foretold of the Seventh Trumpet Rapture The long list of unbiblical pre-Tribulation rapture fabrications Seven ages of the Church: another Darby/Scofield fabrication First, last, before, after: the Bible means what it says Third Day of John 2:1: a prophetic type of the Messianic Age Early Church leaders: Antichrist will persecute the Church Preterism, an even worse heresy than the pre-Trib rapture Who the Restrainer really is, certainly not the Holy Spirit The Jerusalem Temple will be rebuilt within seven years True Meaning of the Seven Seal Scroll of Revelation The First Resurrection of Revelation 20 is of the Church" http://2030secondcoming.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 28, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2017 On 25/07/2017 at 2:09 AM, Last Daze said: I'm interested in hearing from people who have spent some time studying the Millennial Day Theory. Please explain whether you think it is valid or not and most importantly, why. I think this warrants looking at since we are nearly 2000 years into the new covenant. And please don't chime in with "no one knows the day or hour". Thanks. "Can't stop me" Matthew 25:13, Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. Mark 13:32, But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Luke 12:40, Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. These three Scriptures covers it quite well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixerupper Posted July 28, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 430 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 131 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, HAZARD said: "Can't stop me" Mark 13:32, But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Luke 12:40, Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. The Millennial day theory doesn't mean you know the day, only the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 28, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, fixerupper said: The Millennial day theory doesn't mean you know the day, only the year. If you know the year then you should at least know the day, pick one out of three Scriptures Matthew 25:13, Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. Mark 13:32, But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Luke 12:40, Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. These three Scriptures covers it quite well. Only the Father knows the day and year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixerupper Posted July 28, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 430 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 131 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2017 Just now, HAZARD said: If you know the year then you should at least know the day, pick one out of three Scriptures Matthew 25:13, Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. Mark 13:32, But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Luke 12:40, Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. These three Scriptures covers it quite well. Only the Father knows the day and year! If that were the case, that's what the verse would say. But instead it says day or hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 28, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, fixerupper said: If that were the case, that's what the verse would say. But instead it says day or hour. Thing is, if there were no years, then there would be no days. How many days in a year? Try and pick the one when Jesus will return. God's Word says, no one will know the day or the hour, therefore its logical they would not know the year. Only God the Father knows the day, hour, and year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixerupper Posted July 28, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 430 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 131 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, HAZARD said: Thing is, if there were no years, then there would be no days. How many days in a year? Try and pick the one when Jesus will return. I'm not trying to pick anything. I don't know the week, month, or year of his return. I don't accept Daniel's 70th week, and if anything, I think there's more credence to 2030 second coming than any of the 70th week stuff. http://2030secondcoming.com/Why2030SC.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted July 29, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, fixerupper said: I'm not trying to pick anything. I don't know the week, month, or year of his return. I don't accept Daniel's 70th week, and if anything, I think there's more credence to 2030 second coming than any of the 70th week stuff. http://2030secondcoming.com/Why2030SC.html I know your not trying to pick anything. I would take no notice of sites like the one you have placed up; Exploring Prophetic Mysteries With Daniel Speck 8.12.16 Home Why Jesus will return in the year 2030 Based on a number of clues given in the Scriptures, we can expect Jesus Christ to return in 2030. Some Scriptures that point to this particular year: This like every other prophetic guess through out the past two thousand years is nothing more than a guess, and they have all failed. Because Jesus Himself said, no one knows, only the Father, meaning even Jesus does not know the day, the hour or the year. He will know when the Father tells Him to return, and that will be when the Father decides it is the right time for Jesus to return, not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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