JohnD Posted July 31, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Insurance without enough regulation creates the situation we find ourselves in. In socialism, there is no incentive. You get payed whether you work or not. With unregulated insurance the receivers of the money (in this case health care providers) can charges whatever they jolly well want and get it or the write off for it. Insurance denies $100,000 for surgery but pays $10,000. The healthcare providers write it up as $100,000 and sock it to the tax payers as a write off. Doctors withhold prescriptions from chronically ill patients until they pay them a quarterly semiannual or annual visit. Shall I go on? The chemical based pharmaceutical companies who educate healthcare providers shun home remedies or holistic treatments that have been proven to work for pill popping medicine. I've had too many relatives hooked on the chemical dole of doctors taking whole garbage bags full of monthly prescriptions to counteract previous prescriptions (that they are still prescribed to take). The Chinese had a saying. Physicians should be paid only when we are well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted July 31, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2017 Since there is no news article brought forth in this thread, I moved it to General Discussion Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creativemechanic Posted July 31, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 28/07/2017 at 5:33 PM, JohnD said: Like abortion. Abortion will never be stopped until the root problem is stopped. Fornication. Stop fornication and 99.99% of abortion will cease. Deal with the symptoms and not the root cause... band aid on cancer. Good luck with that. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedByGrace1981 Posted July 31, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,923 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/02/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/22/1953 Share Posted July 31, 2017 There are myriad reasons why the cost of healthcare is outrageous. I'll list just a few: 1. Salaries of health care professionals. This is a problem that is not solvable, however - as the costs of schooling and training to become a doctor or nurse can run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. 2. Lawsuits and the cost of malpractice insurance. Lawyers are getting richer and richer feeding off the misery of others. Since lawyers as a group make up most members of Congress, don't expect anything to change anytime soon in this regard. 3. Cost of prescription drugs. While members of Congress are not beholden to voters, they do listen to lobbyists. And the drug company lobby is huge. Therefore, expect no relief here anytime soon. 4. Insurance companies. Historically, insurance companies covered risks. The costs of individual policies were determined by actuarial tables. That is why for instance experienced drivers over 30 were generally offered cheaper auto insurance policies than 18 year old teen-aged drivers. With the mandate to cover pre-existing conditions however, all that has been thrown out on its head. Don't feel sorry for insurance companies, however. They too have a huge lobby, and they will do just fine. Congress will see to that. I've listed just 4 reasons, but there are many more. None of this matters, though because of the following reason. Live it; learn it; love it: 1. The ruling class/establishment/uni-party wants us to have single payer/socialized medicine, so single payer/socialized medicine we shall have. Blessings, -Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted July 31, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/28/2017 at 4:33 PM, JohnD said: Like abortion. Abortion will never be stopped until the root problem is stopped. Fornication. Stop fornication and 99.99% of abortion will cease. Deal with the symptoms and not the root cause... band aid on cancer. There is no way either society OR government can mandate morality, John D. I say make contraception free to all and that would greatly reduce the number of abortions. We have to deal with what is, not what should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 31, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 1 hour ago, MorningGlory said: There is no way either society OR government can mandate morality, John D. I say make contraception free to all and that would greatly reduce the number of abortions. We have to deal with what is, not what should be. ?? Was I making a statement of observation or a commandment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted August 2, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 951 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,565 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,045 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) John D boy, you need turn off Fox Cable News pronto, get back to enjoying what God has put before you. You are being eaten up by stuff that isn't what saints in Christ are to worry about. And John you are getting some of your facts way wrong. I quote you, " I am glad for McCain that his rich father was able to get him out of the Hanoi Hilton long before his cellmates were released." That is just incorrect. John McCain refused to be released before others were due in sequence and stayed a prisoner though horribly injured and tortured at as a prisoner. Please take the time to read at least the short history of Sen. John McCain at Wiki. The man is a highly honorable hero of this country! May God lift your spirit that you may find some enjoyment in your salvation in our mutual Lord Jesus. And again, for your sake- Turnoff the cable news! It is eating you up. Everyone should read the History bio of Honorable Senator John Mc Cain, make it fresh in the mind, as he is now being pummeled by the scoffers and the naysayers the pondents and in genral people of comparatively ( to John Mc Cain ) lower repute and accomplishment. Praise God for heroes in the land. John McCain is a hero in this land. They just don't come tougher more determined and patriotic than him. Edited August 2, 2017 by Neighbor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heleadethme Posted August 2, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 15 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,371 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,268 Days Won: 5 Joined: 07/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 2, 2017 On 7/28/2017 at 5:07 PM, JohnD said: I have two physicians in my family. And they will tell you health care is way over priced. Beginning with medical school. The pharmaceutical companies have way too much influence in the education of American doctors. And over the course of my 56 years of life the entire health care system has been turned into a cash cow for the super greedy. Price overruns are too numerous to list here with referral medicine sending patients unnecessarily to specialists, over charges "to pay for those who can't pay" and out and out fraud: I remember my mother going over the doctor bill pointing out charges for services NOT rendered. "Oh insurance will pay for it," the reply. No one is addressing this root problem with health care. Sin and corruption is the undoing of our formerly Christian nations........it's starting to look like we are becoming worse than pagans and becoming like third world countries. Corrupt and inept. Don't know how much longer our nations be able to hold it together in a 'post-Christian' era, having rebelled against the only true source of blessing there is. Rotting from within, sorry to say. The very same judgments that God said He would bring upon ancient Israel in her apostasy. As believers we must humble ourselves under God's mighty hand, continue walking in faith.....and not react in the flesh like the unbelievers as things unravel. In good times or bad, our mandate is still the gospel and looking for His Day, and the Lord is still worthy of our trust, and able to watch over and keep His own. Deep darkness covers the earth is the time to arise and shine for the Lord is risen upon us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heleadethme Posted August 2, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 15 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,371 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,268 Days Won: 5 Joined: 07/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 2, 2017 On 7/28/2017 at 5:33 PM, JohnD said: Like abortion. Abortion will never be stopped until the root problem is stopped. Fornication. Stop fornication and 99.99% of abortion will cease. Deal with the symptoms and not the root cause... band aid on cancer. Amen.......and the gospel is the only answer for fornication. But it does make one wonder why all the attention of the church is to decry abortion while not decrying fornication and adultery.......well, don't have to wonder, really......it's because the church is full of fornication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinitin Posted August 3, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,366 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,150 Days Won: 9 Joined: 01/10/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 3, 2017 On 7/28/2017 at 4:07 PM, JohnD said: I have two physicians in my family. And they will tell you health care is way over priced. Beginning with medical school. The pharmaceutical companies have way too much influence in the education of American doctors. And over the course of my 56 years of life the entire health care system has been turned into a cash cow for the super greedy. Price overruns are too numerous to list here with referral medicine sending patients unnecessarily to specialists, over charges "to pay for those who can't pay" and out and out fraud: I remember my mother going over the doctor bill pointing out charges for services NOT rendered. "Oh insurance will pay for it," the reply. No one is addressing this root problem with health care. my mom had one procedure a shot in her back. 3 sets of shots are recommended. After she srarted the pain nanagment Her doctor got approval to do a nerve burn so she had that instead of 2 more sets of shots in her spine. Pain managment Dr Billed for the 3 sets if shots, x rays, anethsisua even though my mom only had 1. my mom called her care and care meducare insurance and told them she only had it done once. Insurance didnt care that they were tripple billed for 1 proceedure because paying for 3 was appoved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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