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How did you know I have compulsive tendencies? Yeah, I know what that's from, definitely very earthly stuff.

The demonic thinking - that's from cult involvement. As well as, probably, the (extreme) superstitiousness of the paganism I was raised in. But it had nothing to do with SRA...definitely no periods of time I can't account for. Wow, so sorry if you went through anything like that. No, my abuse was extremely severe, but not in the physical ways that can cause anything on the level of what you're talking about. The fallout for me was more bodily illness (from malnutrition and stress, and later, drugs...yes, they provided them), emotional/psychological issues, destructive habits, isolation. Never had a blackout, and I'm fairly certain I don't have repressed memories. I was hit, but the really severe stuff was the neglect and the psychological/emotional/verbal abuse. One of my abusers was diagnosed as a psychopath when I was 23. (Wish I'd known earlier! Than I would've realized what she was doing and not felt so crazy as a child!) I strongly suspect one of her underlings is a psychopath, too, or at least a narcissist.

So it was mostly that they were trying to mess with my head and hurt me, but not in ways that I could easily show others -- because I did try, hard, even from an extremely young age. I was a firebrand. Despite being so painfully sensitive and shy. Perhaps it was itself a result of the abuse - that's what happens when you make someone that emotional feel that injured and angry. 

But I seem to be getting off topic, and I really need answers here. Though I understand if you don't feel you can provide them. Didn't mean to lock you into this thread. I just happen to be confined to bed right now and trying to distract myself. :) 

 

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other one    24,464

your first question was and I quote:  ". Do they really let demons into your life? "

Thread starts out about demons.   and I am still not sure who or what is "they".

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1 hour ago, other one said:

your first question was and I quote:  ". Do they really let demons into your life? "

Thread starts out about demons.   and I am still not sure who or what is "they".

Um, maybe I'm misunderstanding you somehow, but the title of the thread is literally "Horror movies, LOTR, Harry Potter-type stuff, etc." And if you read the full first post, it's clear that's what I'm asking about - how or if these things might allow demons into your life. "THEY" is the "Horror movies, LOTR, Harry Potter-type stuff, etc." Obviously, I thought. The thread starts out, verbatim, "So I'm a newbie, and I'm really confused about these things. Do they really let demons into your life?" Those signifiers reference the subjects of the thread listed in the title. I didn't keep re-writing the subjects because I thought it would be obvious to anyone who decided to click on it what I was talking about after reading the title. I guess that miscommunication must be a generational gap issue?

I was asking the question, in part, because I want to watch/read these movies/books again eventually, but only if that's OK with God. And some Christians believe it isn't, and I wanted to understand that. Plus, with my background, I do struggle with superstitious thinking, and, I believe with demonic problems in the past (and maybe present). So it's definitely not something I want to mess around with. But the actual topic of this thread is its title. 

I'm not quite sure what happened here, but I'd like to get back to it. You don't have to if you don't want. I'm a newbie with baggage: I have TONS of questions, comments, and concerns on everything under the moon. And I tend to go off on tangents. No need to respond to them, I guess. I didn't mean to derail my own thread...

Anyway, I'm sure others will chime in. 

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8 minutes ago, Daughter of God said:

Um, maybe I'm misunderstanding you somehow, but the title of the thread is literally "Horror movies, LOTR, Harry Potter-type stuff, etc." And if you read the full first post, it's clear that's what I'm asking about - how or if these things might allow demons into your life. "THEY" is the "Horror movies, LOTR, Harry Potter-type stuff, etc." Obviously, I thought. The thread starts out, verbatim, "So I'm a newbie, and I'm really confused about these things. Do they really let demons into your life?" Those signifiers reference the subjects of the thread listed in the title. I didn't keep re-writing the subjects because I thought it would be obvious to anyone who decided to click on it what I was talking about after reading the title. I guess that miscommunication must be a generational gap issue?

I was asking the question, in part, because I want to watch/read these movies/books again eventually, but only if that's OK with God. And some Christians believe it isn't, and I wanted to understand that. Plus, with my background, I do struggle with superstitious thinking, and, I believe with demonic problems in the past (and maybe present). So it's definitely not something I want to mess around with. But the actual topic of this thread is its title. 

I'm not quite sure what happened here, but I'd like to get back to it. You don't have to if you don't want. I'm a newbie with baggage: I have TONS of questions, comments, and concerns on everything under the moon. And I tend to go off on tangents. No need to respond to them, I guess. I didn't mean to derail my own thread...

Anyway, I'm sure others will chime in. 

As a Christian we are to be the salt and light of this earth. Do you know what that means?

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Wayne222    1,748

Hi the bible says to put on the whole armour of God. You need to do that because it says Satan is seeking to destroy and deceive.  Demons and Satan are able to use anything to make one stumble. It's not just bad movies or things of the occult. You can live chess and think about it more then Christ. And so drift away. Thats where you need to discipline yourself. So much time for prayer everyday and yhe study of his word. You need time to rest and also physical exercise.  Time for friends. Time for work. So it's about making the time for each thing. Satan tempts us to leave out God.  By making something to seem more worthwhile. Now read eph chapter 6. I think when a person becomes filled with evil a demon can enter there mind and temple. So maybe wrong movies or books lead to wrong thoughts and wrong desires.  After the mind becomes really corrupt they move in. There is then no guard for there mind. The bible says guard your hearts. Don't let just anything to enter into your hearts and minds. Hope that helps a little.

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40 minutes ago, Wayne222 said:

Hi the bible says to put on the whole armour of God. You need to do that because it says Satan is seeking to destroy and deceive.  Demons and Satan are able to use anything to make one stumble. It's not just bad movies or things of the occult. You can live chess and think about it more then Christ. And so drift away. Thats where you need to discipline yourself. So much time for prayer everyday and yhe study of his word. You need time to rest and also physical exercise.  Time for friends. Time for work. So it's about making the time for each thing. Satan tempts us to leave out God.  By making something to seem more worthwhile. Now read eph chapter 6. I think when a person becomes filled with evil a demon can enter there mind and temple. So maybe wrong movies or books lead to wrong thoughts and wrong desires.  After the mind becomes really corrupt they move in. There is then no guard for there mind. The bible says guard your hearts. Don't let just anything to enter into your hearts and minds. Hope that helps a little.

Hi, Wayne. Thanks. I completely agree about putting on the whole armor of God. I read Ephesians 6 every morning, so it's funny you mentioned that. I'm trying to figure out what's light and what's darkness here, and I guess I'm just having a really hard time understanding why some people would consider these kinds of books and movies bad. I mean, what's the reasoning behind it? The simple fact of having magic or demons in them, even though Tolkien and Rowling are Christians, and the demons in exorcism movies are never portrayed as somehow attractive? I just don't get it without knowing your reasons for rejecting these things as bad. Of course we should reject darkness, but how is this darkness?

What you said about chess and distractions - yes, I think the devil uses anything to induce spiritual sloth. And I certainly struggle without, even though I want to read the Bible and pray, and I know I should. I know that's the key to becoming better with discernment and staying strong. I don't know why it's so hard to do that, but that's another story, I guess. Time for everything is hard to make in modern life, I guess. 

Nothing actually seems more worthwhile than God to me now that I'm turning back to Him. That's part of why I'm asking about this stuff. I haven't read those books in a long time, actually, or watched those movies in months. But I do want to know how I should behave going forward - I don't want to do anything that would jeopardize my walk with God. But I still don't understand if or why these things would.

Do they lead me to wrong thoughts and wrong desires? (Definitely agree that it's important to avoid what does...REALLY hard, though, but other things tempt me more than this allegedly "dark" stuff.) Hm, it's been a long time since I watched/read...I'm not sure. I think LOTR, if anything, led me to good thoughts and desires...or at least a mix. HP...been too long, not sure. The horror movies...actually, yeah, they did scare me and made me remember images of brutality and blasphemies for days afterward, even though those things never seemed appealing. They also tended to make me think of and fear the devil more, and I guess that's not good. And they just tended to upset me...savagery freaks me out.

Leaning away from horror, I guess...the rest, I'm still totally confused. I agree with the principles you've put forth - strongly. I just don't understand at all how those principles apply to these specific things in the way you seem to be implying. 

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Well I don't personally feel watching Harry potter is wrong at all and will bring demons into a life. I feel a lot of Christians are legalistic. Like when Paul writes that a weak christian will only eat vegs. Because it effects the conscience of that person. If you feel to do something is wrong and you do it then it is sin. Some Christians feel maybe watching  a certain movie will defile themselves. Just make sure what you do is not against your conscious.  And line up your conscious with God's word.I am glad you are reading eph chapter 6 its a key in our walk. Adrian Rogers has a good study on this. Check out love worth finding. There web page. I hope you draw closer to Christ. He is our life. Ask for wisdom in your prayers in the book of James it says God will give it. I also found out that the more I pray each day the closer I am to God. When I stay close I am stronger in the faith. 

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8 hours ago, Daughter of God said:

Um, maybe I'm misunderstanding you somehow, but the title of the thread is literally "Horror movies, LOTR, Harry Potter-type stuff, etc." And if you read the full first post, it's clear that's what I'm asking about - how or if these things might allow demons into your life. "THEY" is the "Horror movies, LOTR, Harry Potter-type stuff, etc." Obviously, I thought. The thread starts out, verbatim, "So I'm a newbie, and I'm really confused about these things. Do they really let demons into your life?" Those signifiers reference the subjects of the thread listed in the title. I didn't keep re-writing the subjects because I thought it would be obvious to anyone who decided to click on it what I was talking about after reading the title. I guess that miscommunication must be a generational gap issue?

I was asking the question, in part, because I want to watch/read these movies/books again eventually, but only if that's OK with God. And some Christians believe it isn't, and I wanted to understand that. Plus, with my background, I do struggle with superstitious thinking, and, I believe with demonic problems in the past (and maybe present). So it's definitely not something I want to mess around with. But the actual topic of this thread is its title. 

I'm not quite sure what happened here, but I'd like to get back to it. You don't have to if you don't want. I'm a newbie with baggage: I have TONS of questions, comments, and concerns on everything under the moon. And I tend to go off on tangents. No need to respond to them, I guess. I didn't mean to derail my own thread...

Anyway, I'm sure others will chime in. 

The movies themselves probably won't as long as you don't look deeper into the subjects...    but if you are not totally comfortable with it within yourself, then you should ponder on why before you watch much of it. When you are not comfortable with it it may well be the Holy Spirit telling you to be careful.

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16 hours ago, Daughter of God said:

Do they really let demons into your life? How/why? And how can you tell what's bad from what's OK?

Yes, I believe they can weaken you spiritually. Especially if you do not know the Truth, in both cases it can work against the Lord.

It is feeding what you should not. You can tell what is good or what is not by discernment, if you do not have it then ask to God.

 

What horror movies are all about: Killing, torturing, bringing fear, anxiety, hate. Can you see any desirable thing here?

 

The questions we should make to ourselves are (answer to yourself with sincerity):

Can we stop watching these things and be satisfied?

Can we burn and/or lose all the items (harry potter, lord of the rings, etc) we have bought?

Are we overvalueing these things? Are they trying to kick the Lord Jesus out of our lives or reduce him to a minor detail?

Do watching these things add something positive to our faith in Jesus Christ? Or are they trying to change our mind about it?

 

I believe most movies, especially those which are embraced by the world (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, horror, porn, etc) does not deserve our precious time.

I believe we have to seek for help, to be free of those things that does not add anything constructive to our spiritual lives. The Lord Jesus can make us free of all that.

 

I believe we should not hear the opinion of others or the desires of our flesh, but we have to hear the Spirit of God.. What is He telling us? What is He telling you?

 

God bless you, my friend!

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Porn??? What on EARTH does that have to do with any of this? UGH! I have never used that smut in my life! Mostly because it's filled with degrading, anti-human, usually misogynistic demonic themes - and these days, often sodomy, S&M, and other perversions. I know this far better than I'd like because I was involved with researching its massive HARMS for years. Wish I hadn't been, frankly. Messed me up just knowing about that kind of evil, and I don't appreciate being reminded of it this way as I was participating in it.

NO, that is not what this is about, and please don't lump that filth in there with legitimate, mainstream entertainment/art. 

And for the record, no, that is not what all horror movies are about, either. But I'd already decided I'm better of without those for other reasons already listed, so I'm not going to let this blanket generalization change my decision. 

As to the rest, this really doesn't tell me anything I don't already know. I'm leaning increasingly toward the conclusion that LOTR, Harry Potter, and the like are fine, and that there are no solid reasons against them, only knee-jerk reactions against inconsequential plot elements and a lot of fear-mongering. 

If you'd read the first post, you'd already know that I'm well aware that discernment is the only real way to know for sure, and you'd know the purpose of this thread. I won't repeat myself anymore. Too sick and tired. 

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