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woundeddog    1,480

Interesting-- was wondering why the Lord let me see that about Believing Israel being the Bride of Christ- not the church (see post on Bride of Christ) was wondering what difference does it make any way???-- then today I saw a post on facebook from a Christian equating Zionism ( Jews returning to Israel) to the Nazis'-- wow- I guess some Christians are anti-semetic and support the Palastinians not the Jews---- wise up if that is you-- If you are a real Christian-- In eternity your Bride through being the Body of Christ will be a JEW~~~get your mind straight-- support Israel

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other one    24,677

How did they relate Zionism to Nazism?     What the Nazi's did to the Jewish People did have some affect on the rest of the world deciding the Jews needed their own land to exist peacefully....    outside of that I fail to see any relationship at all.

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woundeddog    1,480
53 minutes ago, other one said:

How did they relate Zionism to Nazism?

Okay-- It was meme-- It showed a Nazi holding a machine gun standing over a refugee child in front of a bombed out building ( he had a swastikas armband_- in the next panel it had Jewish Soldier- holding a machinegun standing over a refugee child( who had the Islamic head dress on) in front of a bombed out building he had an arm band with the star of David-- the large caption was " TERRORISTS"----

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woundeddog    1,480
57 minutes ago, other one said:

How did they relate Zionism to Nazism?  

I am sure the implication was pro PLO saying the Jews were the terrorist--- I can not for the life of me understand how any true Christian could hate the Jews-and support Muslims ---who hate the Jews and wish them all dead---- even if they believe God is finished with Israel( which scripture does not support in any way) Christianity owes a huge debt to the first believers----

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Its looks like its quite polical and coming from many angles.

 

 

 

I have read about the palestinian Jews not agreeing with the way Zionist army are keeping the muslims restrained from travel in and around the gaza strip,making their lives almost impossible to live . I have seen documentaries from palestinian non zionist Jews saying this.

Not all Jewish people are zionist or aggree with their war tactics again the muslim palestians.

 

also there is this  M  Mahmood Abbas who wrote a book : " The Other Side: the Secret Relationship Between Nazism and Zionism".

it ia a book by Mahmoud Abbas, published in 1984 in Arabic. It is based on his CandSc thesis, completed in 1982 at Patrice Lumumba University (now the Peoples' Friendship University of Russia) under the title The Connection between the Nazis and the Leaders of the Zionist Movement, and defended at the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Soviet Academy of Sciences

In the book, Abbas argues that the Nazi-perpetrated Holocaust had been exaggerated and that Zionists created "the myth" of six million murdered Jews, which he called a "fantastic lie".[4][5][6] He further claimed that those Jews which were killed by the Nazis were actually the victims of a Zionist-Nazi plot aimed to fuel vengeance against Jews and to expand their mass extermination.[7] The book also discussed topics such as the Haavara Agreement, in which the Third Reich agreed with the Jewish Agency to facilitate Jewish emigration from Germany to Mandate Palestine.[3]

Portions of The Other Side have been considered as Holocaust denial by some critics,[8] especially the parts disputing the accepted number of deaths in the Holocaust as well as the accusations that Zionist agitation was the cause of the Holocaust,[9] a charge that Abbas denies.[10]

When Abbas was appointed the Palestinian prime minister in 2003, he wrote that the "Holocaust was a terrible, unforgivable crime against the Jewish nation, a crime against humanity that cannot be accepted by humankind" and that he does not deny it,[11] and said that "When I wrote The Other Side … we were at war with Israel. Today I would not have made such remarks".[12] More recently, in 2013 he reasserted that part of his thesis that "the Zionist movement had ties with the Nazis".[13][14] In 2014, he stated the Holocaust was the “most heinous crime in the modern era”.[1

 

Study at Patrice Lumumba University

Abbas attended at Patrice Lumumba University to prepare and present his doctoral thesis. The institute's director at the time, Yevgeny Primakov, appointed a Soviet specialist on Palestine, Vladimir Ivanovich Kisilev as Abbas' dissertation adviser. They communicated with mostly in English and Arabic.[3 In an interview with the magazine Kommersant 20 years later, Kisilev remembers Abbas as a well-prepared graduate student, who came to Moscow with an already chosen research topic and a large amount of already prepared material.[3]

The title of Abbas' thesis is The Connection between the Nazis and the Leaders of the Zionist Movement or, in Russian, "Связи между сионизмом и нацизмом. 1933–1945".[16 In 1984, a book based on Abbas' doctoral dissertation was published in Arabic by Dar Ibn Rushd publishers in Amman, Jordan under the title al-Wajh al-akhar : al-`alaqat al-sirriyah bayna al-Naziyah wa-al-Sihyuniyah.

 

 

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Forgotten lessons: Palestine and the British empire

 

While the conflict that is the legacy of British involvement in Palestine daily captures world headlines, Britain's foster-role is too often ignored. Such an omission is all the more tragic, James Renton argues, since mandate era misjudgements are being readily repeated.

In a speech to the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies on 21 May 2009, David Miliband, the British foreign secretary, argued that the future of the west’s relations with Muslim-dominated countries lay in the building of broad coalitions based upon consent among citizens—not just ruling elites. Prior to making his case, he acknowledged the elephant in the room of Anglo-Muslim relations:  Britain’s colonial record in the middle east and south Asia, and its legacies. As part of this rare confession of culpability, he noted ‘the failure – it has to be said not just ours - to establish two states in Palestine’.

lest_we_forgetpng_largeThis admission, as rare as it may be, gives only a very partial picture of what is a largely unacknowledged story. With a mandate from the league of nations, Britain governed the Holy Land from the end of the first world war until 1948. During this time, the political landscape of Palestine was completely transformed. Whilst Arabs and Jews played a fundamental role in the unfolding drama of mandate Palestine, the driving force was imperial Britain. The old myth that Britain was merely ‘holding the ring’ — trying to keep the peace between two irrational, warring parties — is a gross misunderstanding of history.

In November 1918, Palestine did not exist as a political entity. What became mandate Palestine was carved out of four districts of the Ottoman empire, which had ruled the roost since 1516. In the Jewish world, only a small, though growing, minority were members of the Zionist movement by the end of the Great War. Many Jews were virulently opposed to the idea, though most were indifferent to what was viewed as a utopian movement. In 1918, approximately 10% of the population of the Holy Land were Jewish, of whom many were not Zionist. Amongst the Arab population, there was a growing sense of Palestinian identity before 1914. But this was just one of many competing loyalties at the time. Just after the war, the predominant aim of Arab nationalists in Palestine was to establish independence for Greater Syria—incorporating today’s Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Palestinian territories, and Jordan.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/opensecurity/james-renton/forgotten-lessons-palestine-and-british-empire

 

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There is a  you tube video called :

Freedom for palestine: # Gaza Names Projuect

 

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There is a you tube video called:

Jewish Voice for Peace, equality, equality in Isreal/Plaestine

 

another:

Jews Who Oppose Israeli Violations of Human Rights

 

So not all Jews are for zionism.

 

another

zionism:The Terrible Truth (+16)

 

another

Hitler and the Zionist Secrets of WW2

 

 

another

The Most Shocking Secret of WW2

 

another

Confessions of Jewish Zionists- Thomas Dalton, PhD

 

another

 

ORIGIN OF SATANIC ZIONISM. MUST WATCH

- I did view it, this is coming from the perspective of a Muslim preacher preaching this to his congregation-

Yes it may be false, but just goes to show, that  these views are being perceived and perpetuated by different angles  and perhaps different strategies.

 

another

JEWISH POWER II (This Video Is Illegal in Several Countries)

In this video th Balfour Declaration ere is footage of interview with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu  and another with  Rotchild and the  Declaration  Of Sympahthy with Jewish Zionists  nov. 2nd 1917to Lord Walter Rothchild

 

Another

                Have been trying to find it once again on you tube,

it was an interview from a jewish man whose father was azionist in the isrealy army. The sone was giving his speach in a Jewish synagogue , dissagreeing in his fathers zionist beleifs and trying to bring to light the injustices that are going on between the isreales and the ^plaestinians surrounding the gaza strip.you tube

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also there is other stuff concerning the federal reserves and how they were involved in supporting word war II and how Zionist where also implicated.  I would have to go research some for more documentation but I have read this before as well.

So far  I found :

Federal Reserve's Role During WWII

https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/feds_role_during_wwiihttps://

 

 

1917: How One Year Changed the World

http://nmajh.org/1917/?gclid=CLyN8Pz08tUCFceKswodD_cOVg

 

 

 

 

N.B.

The things I have posted do not represent my personal opinions, they represent some of the different political angles to why some ,may perceive Zionism politically attached in some way with WWII.

 

These are not my views, these are what I have found when googling the topic.

 

   
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other one    24,677
1 hour ago, woundeddog said:

Okay-- It was meme-- It showed a Nazi holding a machine gun standing over a refugee child in front of a bombed out building ( he had a swastikas armband_- in the next panel it had Jewish Soldier- holding a machinegun standing over a refugee child( who had the Islamic head dress on) in front of a bombed out building he had an arm band with the star of David-- the large caption was " TERRORISTS"----

I'm sure one could take that same photo in any number of places across the world....     pictures are really not worth a thousand words......   pictures don't tell you the whole story about what's going on in the picture.....   and in cases of this nature one would have to know who took the picture and where and under what circumstances...

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2 minutes ago, other one said:

I'm sure one could take that same photo in any number of places across the world

I'm sorry- I wasn't clear- it was a cartoon drawing- I am not endorsing it- just saying I was surprised by it, in a negative way

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3 hours ago, woundeddog said:

I'm sorry- I wasn't clear- it was a cartoon drawing- I am not endorsing it- just saying I was surprised by it, in a negative way

Oh goodness,   I never even considered you might agree with it...

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18 hours ago, 1to3 said:

 

So far  I found

   

 

18 hours ago, 1to3 said:
   

The Zionist conspiracy nonsense is all Lies just made up by those who HATE the Jews and would like to see them Wiped off the face of the earth so why are you repeating them?  Abbas is like a lying snake who speaks out of both sides of his mouth. You need to get your head straight on this and not entertain the anti-Semitic propaganda or you will be on the wrong side spreading lies about Israel & the Jews. I find the anti-Semitism extremely offensive & very disturbing when repeated by Christians. We have the Bible truth, the land of Israel belongs to the Jews and God gave them way more land then what they are presently on. Guess who is a Zionist? -The LORD GOD.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Israel-land.html

Question: "What is the land that God promised to Israel?"

Answer:
In regards to the land that God has promised Israel, Genesis 15:18 declares to Abraham, “To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates.” God later confirms this promise to Abraham’s son Isaac and Isaac’s son Jacob (whose name was later changed to Israel). When the Israelites were about to invade the Promised Land, God reiterated the land promise, as recorded in Joshua 1:4, “Your territory will extend from the desert to Lebanon, and from the great river, the Euphrates—all the Hittite country—to the Great Sea on the west.”

According to Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile River in Egypt to Lebanon (south to north) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (west to east). So, what land has God stated belongs to Israel? All of the land modern Israel currently possesses, plus all of the land of the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Israel currently possesses only a fraction of the land God has promised.
 

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13 hours ago, 1to3 said:

Its looks like its quite polical and coming from many angles.

   

Everything you posted is a lot of anti-Semitic conspiracies and really bad history that has no basis in truth or fact.

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