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On 10/17/2017 at 3:29 PM, Robert William said:

 

The Romanites savior is their Pope and Priests who preach a false gospel of salvation by works.

The Pope and Priests via Mass claim to have the power to forgive sins.

All who partake in Mass spit in Jesus' face and say your Atonement was not good enough.

Not true, Jesus gave his followers the ability to forgive sins when he breathed on them the Holy Spirit and said "receive the Holy Spirit , those whose sins you forgive are forgiven those whose sins you retain are retained."

And Catholics do not worship the priest or Pope as their savior.

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22 hours ago, spiderman1917 said:

Not true, Jesus gave his followers the ability to forgive sins when he breathed on them the Holy Spirit and said "receive the Holy Spirit , those whose sins you forgive are forgiven those whose sins you retain are retained."

And Catholics do not worship the priest or Pope as their savior.

I have seen this current Romanite Pope bow and pray to a statue of Mary, that's the sin of idolatry. Romanites are highly idolatrous!

Sins are forgiven because of the blood of the Lamb, not by humans.

Exo 20:1  And God spake all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2  I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:3  Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5  Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exo 20:6  And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

 

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23 hours ago, spiderman1917 said:

Not true, Jesus gave his followers the ability to forgive sins when he breathed on them the Holy Spirit and said "receive the Holy Spirit , those whose sins you forgive are forgiven those whose sins you retain are retained."

And Catholics do not worship the priest or Pope as their savior.

I hope that you know that the disciples would not forgive someone who has not already repented.

Joh 20:22  And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit.
Joh 20:23  If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld."

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On 10/18/2017 at 6:52 PM, spiderman1917 said:

Not true, Jesus gave his followers the ability to forgive sins when he breathed on them the Holy Spirit and said "receive the Holy Spirit , those whose sins you forgive are forgiven those whose sins you retain are retained."

And Catholics do not worship the priest or Pope as their savior.

Only God forgives our sin in we ask Him to forgive our sins in Jesus name.

"Everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name." Acts 10:43 

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On 10/18/2017 at 5:52 PM, spiderman1917 said:

Not true, Jesus gave his followers the ability to forgive sins when he breathed on them the Holy Spirit and said "receive the Holy Spirit , those whose sins you forgive are forgiven those whose sins you retain are retained."

And Catholics do not worship the priest or Pope as their savior.

You have not addressed the subject of idolatry, Romanites are praying to Mary and statues of Mary and other Saints.

Exo 20:1  And God spoke all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2  "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
Exo 20:3  "You shall have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4  "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Exo 20:5  You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,
Exo 20:6  but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

 

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6 minutes ago, Cobalt1959 said:

Two sentences, but there is so much wrong with them it is difficult to know where to start.

No one can forgive someone else's sins unless those are sins personally commit against them.  If you come to me and say "I have committed this sin against you," I can forgive that sin, personally.  I cannot forgive a sin, for you, that you have committed against someone else.  And even then, that sin is forgiven only between you and I.  It is not forgiven by God until you go to Christ, repent and ask for forgiveness.   No Priest can forgive sins that some person sitting in a Penalty Box confesses to them.  No one has that power but Jesus.  There is only one mediator between God and man and that is Jesus.  Period.  No one else.  Not a Priest.  Not Mary.  Not a Saint.  The Priest can tell you to finger a set of Rosary beads and recite some lines by rote, but that hardly does anything to cause you to have sincere repentance and remorse for your sins.  And a person walks away from Confession no cleaner, or forgiven than they were when they walked in because they have yielded themselves to a false system of penance, the concept of which is found no where in the Bible.  Mary cannot hear prayers because she is dead, and she is not an intercessor.  Saints also cannot hear prayers because they are dead and are also not intercessors.  No where does the Bible tell us to confess our sins to a Priest.  Or Mary.  Or a Saint.

By kneeling, Catholics worship both the Pope and Priests, as well as every single idol of a Saint, or cross or any other icon they kneel before.  All throughout the Bible, kneeling is given to be the ultimate sign of worship.  It is not by mistake that Catholics are instructed to kneel before the Pope because kneeling denotes worship.  Any place in the Bible, where we see someone trying to kneel before anyone except God, or Jesus, such as to an angel, they are told not to do it.  There is a very good reason for that.  Because no one is to be worshiped, even angels, except for God, and Christ.

You have received some very good instruction from many people on this board, but it seems to do no good.  These are people who have devoted time out of their day, and used their collective wisdom to try and instructed you in the right way and correct your errors but you seem to only become more mired down in error each day.

Yes amem cobalt , great effort. :)

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On 9/7/2017 at 6:13 PM, HAZARD said:

I found this interesting;  . . . . 

link,

 

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/

 

LIST OF CATHOLIC HERESIES
And HUMAN TRADITIONS

ADOPTED and PERPETUATED by the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
IN THE COURSE OF 1600 YEARS

(Compiled by Rev. Stephen L. Testa)

“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall
make you free.”
—Jesus in John 8:32

Notice: These dates are in many cases approximate. Many of these heresies had been current in the Church years before, but only when they were officially adopted by a Church council and proclaimed by the pope as dogma of faith, did they become binding on Catholics.

And doctrine to be true must conform to the Word of God. “To the law and to the testimony; if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” (Isaiah 8:20)

At the Reformation in the 16th Century these heresies were repudiated as having no part in the Religion of Jesus as taught in the New Testament.

Heresy Date
   
OF ALL THE HUMAN TRADITIONS taught and practiced by the Roman Catholic Church, which are contrary to the Bible, the most ancient are the prayers for the dead and the sign of the Cross. Both began 300 years after Christ. 310
Wax Candles introduced in church 320
Veneration of angels and dead saints 375
The Mass, as a daily celebration, adopted 394
The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother of God", as applied to her, originated in the Council of Ephesus 431
Priests began to dress differently from the laity 500
Extreme Unction 526
The doctrine of Purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great 593
The Latin language, as the language of prayer and worship in churches, was also imposed by Pope Gregory I. 600 years after Christ

The Word of God forbids praying and teaching in an unknown tongue. (1st Corinthians 14:9).
600
The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were prayers directed to Mary, or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman Church.

(Matthew 11:28; Luke 1:46; Acts 10:25-26; 14:14-18)
600
The Papacy is of pagan origin. The title of pope or universal bishop, was first given to the bishop of Rome by the wicked emperor Phocas.

This he did to spite Bishop Ciriacus of Constantinople, who had justly excommunicated him for his having caused the assassination of his predecessor emperor Mauritius. Gregory 1, then bishop of Rome, refused the title, but his successor, Boniface III, first assumed title "pope."

Jesus did not appoint Peter to the headship of the apostles and forbade any such notion. (Luke 22:24-26; Ephesians 1:22-23; Colossians 1:18; 1st Corinthians 3:11).

Note: Nor is there any mention in Scripture, nor in history, that Peter ever was in Rome, much less that he was pope there for 25 years; Clement, 3rd bishop of Rome, remarks that "there is no real 1st century evidence that Peter ever was in Rome."
610
The kissing of the Pope's feet

It had been a pagan custom to kiss the feet of emperors. The Word of God forbids such practices. (Read Acts 10:25-26; Revelation 19:10; 22:9).
709
The Temporal power of the Popes

When Pepin, the usurper of the throne of France, descended into Italy, called by Pope Stephen II, to war against the Italian Lombards, he defeated them and gave the city of Rome and surrounding territory to the pope. Jesus expressly forbade such a thing, and He himself refused worldly kingship. (Read Matthew 4:8-9; 20:25-26; John 18:38).
750
Worship of the cross, images and relics was authorized

This was by order of Dowager Empress Irene of Constantinople, who first caused to pluck the eyes of her own son, Constantine VI, and then called a church council at the request of Hadrian I, pope of Rome at that time.

Such practice is called simply IDOLATRY in the Bible, and is severely condemned. (Read Exodus 20:4; 3:17; Deuteronomy 27:15; Psalm 115).
788
Holy Water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by the priest, was authorized 850
The veneration of St. Joseph began 890
The baptism of bells was instituted by Pope John XIV 965
Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV

Every believer and follower of Christ is called saint in the Bible. (Read Romans 1:7; 1st Colossians 1:2).
995
Fasting on Fridays and during Lent were imposed

Imposed by popes said to be interested in the commerce of fish. (Bull, or permit to eat meat), some authorities say, began in the year 700. This is against the plain teaching of the Bible. (Read Matthew 15:10; 1st Corinthians 10:25; 1st Timothy 4:1-3).
998
The Mass was developed gradually as a sacrifice; attendance made obligatory in the 11th century.

The Bible teaches that the sacrifice of Christ was offered once and for all, and is not to be repeated, but only commemorated in the Lord's Supper. (Read Hebrews 7:27; 9:26-28; 10:10-14).
 
The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by Pope Hildebrand, Boniface VII

Jesus imposed no such rule, nor did any of the apostles. On the contrary, St. Peter was a married man, and St. Paul says that bishops were to have wife and children. (Read 1st Timothy 3:2,5, and 12; Matthew 8:14-15).
1079
The Rosary, or prayer beads was introduced by Peter the Hermit, in the year 1090. Copied from Hindus and Mohammedans

The counting of prayers is a pagan practice and is expressly condemned by Christ. (Matthew 6:5-13).
1090
The Inquisition of heretics was instituted by the Council of Verona in the year 1184. Jesus never taught the use of force to spread His religion 1184
The sale of Indulgences, commonly regarded as a purchase of forgiveness and a permit to indulge in sin.

Christianity, as taught in the Bible, condemns such a traffic and it was the protest against this traffic that brought on the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century.
1190
The dogma of Transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III, in the year

By this doctrine the priest pretends to perform a daily miracle by changing a wafer into the body of Christ, and then he pretends to eat Him alive in the presence of his people during Mass. The Bible condemns such absurdities; for the Lord's Supper is simply a memorial of the sacrifice of Christ. The spiritual presence of Christ is implied in the Lord's Supper. (Read Luke 22:19-20; John 6:35; 1st Corinthians 11:26).
1215
Confession of sin to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope Innocent III., in the Lateran Council

The Bible commands us to confess our sins direct to God. (Read Psalm 51:1-10; Luke 7:48; 15:21; 1st John 1:8-9).
1215
The adoration of the wafer (Host), was decreed by Pope Honorius

So the Roman Church worships a God made by human hands. This is plain idolatry and absolutely contrary to the spirit of the Gospel. (Read John 4:24).
1220
The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the Council of Valencia

Jesus commanded that the Scriptures should be read by all. (John 5:39; 1st Timothy 3:15-17).
1229
The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk

It is a piece of brown cloth, with the picture of the Virgin and supposed to contain supernatural virtue to protect from all dangers those who wear it on naked skin. This is fetishism.
1287
The Roman Church forbade the cup to the laity, by instituting the communion of one kind in the Council of Constance

The Bible commands us to celebrate the Lord's Supper with unleavened bread and the fruit of the vine. (Read Matthew 26:27; 1st Corinthians 11:26-29).
1414
The doctrine of Purgatory was proclaimed as a dogma of faith by Council of Florence

There is not one word in the Bible that would teach the purgatory of priests. The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sins. (Read 1st John 1:7-9; 2:1-2; John 5:24; Romans 8:1).
1439
The doctrine of 7 Sacraments affirmed

The Bible says that Christ instituted only two ordinances, Baptism and the Lord's Supper. (Read Matthew 28:19-20; 26:26-28).
1439
The Ave Maria, part of the last

It was completed 50 years afterward and finally approved by Pope Sixtus V, at the end of the 16th century.
1508
The Council of Trent, held in the year 1545, declared that Tradition is of equal authority with the Bible

By tradition is meant human teachings. The Pharisees believed the same way, and Jesus bitterly condemned them, for by teaching human tradition, they nullified the commandments of God. (Read Mark 7:7-13; Colossians 2:8; Revelation 22:18).
1545
The apocryphal books were added to the Bible also by the Council of Trent

These books were not recognized as canonical by the Jewish Church. (See Revelation 22:8-9).
1546
The Creed of Pope Pius IV was imposed as the official creed 1560 years after Christ and the apostles

True Christians retain the Holy Scriptures as their creed. Hence their creed is 1500 years older than the creed of Roman Catholics. (Read Galatians 1:8).
1560
The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX

The Bible states that all men, with the sole exception of Christ, are sinners. Mary herself had need of a Savior. (Read Romans 3:23; 5:12; Psalm 51:5; Luke 1:30,46,47).
1834
In the year 1870 after Christ, Pope Pius IX proclaimed the dogma of Papal Infallibility

This is a blasphemy and the sign of the apostasy and of the antichrist predicted by St. Paul. (Read 2nd Thessalonians 2:2-12; Revelation 17:1-9; 13:5-8,18).

Many Bible students see the number of the beast (Rev. 13:18), 666 in the Roman letters of the Pope's title: "VICARIVS FILII DEI." -- V-5, I-1; C-100, I-1; V-S, I-1; L-50, I-1; I-1; D-500, I-l — Total, 666.
1870
Pope Plus X, in the year 1907, condemned together with "Modernism", all the discoveries of modern science which are not approved by the Church

Pius IX had done the same thing in the Syllabus of 1864.
1907
In the year 1930 Pius XI, condemned the Public Schools 1930
In the year 1931 the same pope Pius XI, reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "the Mother of God"

This doctrine was first invented by the Council of Ephesus in the year 431. This is a heresy contrary by Mary's own words. (Read Luke 1:46-49; John 2: l-5).
1931
In the year 1950 the last dogma was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII, the Assumption of the Virgin Mary 1950

Spiderman will just poo poo all that away, I believe he is a Lord Lord type or a novice.

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21 hours ago, Cobalt1959 said:

And yet, in a thread about Calvinism, I am evil incarnate.  It cannot be both and you might want to work on your spelling of the word "Amen."

I don't consider you as evil, I consider you to be a brother in Christ. :)

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On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Cobalt1959 said:

Two sentences, but there is so much wrong with them it is difficult to know where to start.

No one can forgive someone else's sins unless those are sins personally commit against them.  If you come to me and say "I have committed this sin against you," I can forgive that sin, personally.  I cannot forgive a sin, for you, that you have committed against someone else.  And even then, that sin is forgiven only between you and I.  It is not forgiven by God until you go to Christ, repent and ask for forgiveness.   No Priest can forgive sins that some person sitting in a Penalty Box confesses to them.  No one has that power but Jesus.  There is only one mediator between God and man and that is Jesus.  Period.  No one else.  Not a Priest.  Not Mary.  Not a Saint.  The Priest can tell you to finger a set of Rosary beads and recite some lines by rote, but that hardly does anything to cause you to have sincere repentance and remorse for your sins.  And a person walks away from Confession no cleaner, or forgiven than they were when they walked in because they have yielded themselves to a false system of penance, the concept of which is found no where in the Bible.  Mary cannot hear prayers because she is dead, and she is not an intercessor.  Saints also cannot hear prayers because they are dead and are also not intercessors.  No where does the Bible tell us to confess our sins to a Priest.  Or Mary.  Or a Saint.

By kneeling, Catholics worship both the Pope and Priests, as well as every single idol of a Saint, or cross or any other icon they kneel before.  All throughout the Bible, kneeling is given to be the ultimate sign of worship.  It is not by mistake that Catholics are instructed to kneel before the Pope because kneeling denotes worship.  Any place in the Bible, where we see someone trying to kneel before anyone except God, or Jesus, such as to an angel, they are told not to do it.  There is a very good reason for that.  Because no one is to be worshiped, even angels, except God, and Christ.

You have received some very good instruction from many people on this board, but it seems to do no good.  These are people who have devoted time out of their day, and used their collective wisdom to try and instructed you in the right way and correct your errors but you seem to only become more mired down in error each day.

You use guilt to bash someone instead of using bible doctrine to correct. 

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Revelation 17 and 18 of the Bible exposes the Roman religious system for what it is...

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