frienduff thaylorde Posted September 2, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 hours ago, AmicusDei said: It sounds like very few people will be saved. That's a good news of the Gospel? Interfaith and its universal mind set are a den of thieves and robbers.........for a THEIF tries to find some other way IN. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted September 2, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,247 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,851 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 hours ago, AmicusDei said: It sounds like very few people will be saved. That's a good news of the Gospel? Your thinking is missing the point. Due to our sins, everybody is doomed to punishment, eternal punishment. The Good News is, whosoever will can be saved from that eternal punishment, by believing in the one who paid with His life for our sins. Jesus, our savior. That's Good News!............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 2, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,644 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,831 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2017 13 hours ago, AmicusDei said: Do you believe in Universal salvation? People can believe whatever they want. ←(universal thinking / belief). But that has no bearing on fact. If one believes salt is sugar if does not alter the fact that one is not the other. Salvation is a subject humanity would be completely oblivious to were it not for the Word of God. It is there (the Word of God) that we must consult and comply with its definition, qualifications, parameters, etc. The Bible says repeatedly in many ways that there will be no universal salvation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmicusDei Posted September 2, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 The Bible also says in many places that there will be Universal salvation. So I guess you have to take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmicusDei Posted September 2, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 What kind of God was set up the universe in such a way that everybody was doomed to Hell by default? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 2, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,644 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,831 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, AmicusDei said: What kind of God was set up the universe in such a way that everybody was doomed to Hell by default? God didn't. All things were perfect. It was set up for it to continue to be perfect but man had to have a choice. Man chose poorly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmicusDei Posted September 2, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) God knew very well how man would choose. After all, he made man the way he is. So it is still God's responsibility. Edited September 2, 2017 by AmicusDei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 3, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,644 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,831 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted September 3, 2017 11 hours ago, AmicusDei said: God knew very well how man would choose. After all, he made man the way he is. So it is still God's responsibility. Which is why he (Jesus) went to the cross to offer man the chance to get out of hell (again by choice). Let me ask you AmicusDei, are you pro-choice? Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmicusDei Posted September 3, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 So you are saying that getting saved is a matter of chance? Some people get the chance and some people don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted September 3, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,247 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,851 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted September 3, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 10:15 AM, AmicusDei said: So you are saying that getting saved is a matter of chance? Some people get the chance and some people don't? No. It's just a matter that, some decide to take a chance. They decide to believe God's way, according to His word. Not everybody want's to believe. But that is their choice. An eternal choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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