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4 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Prophecy ceased with the completion of the Bible.

I've prophesied, and it was fulfilled exactly as the Spirit told me. My wife has been healed. She's written things the Spirit first told to her in 1993 and they're happening today or have happened over the years. I'm sorry you've not been exposed to the Spirit, but He is willing. We're spiritual creatures now, so we're not limited by the physical. I've witnessed things I can only describe as visions from 100's of miles away and called to confirm those I saw. I've been moved by the Spirit to pray for someone, acted on His promptings for people thousands of miles away and knew what was going on. 

The spirit realm is more real than the physical. I've witness the arrival of saints into heaven, I've seen passed family and friends in heaven. The word of God is just a map to the Author who is not bound by words. To make such a statement as what I've quoted you say really shows a lack in your walk with the Lord. Theology is made up to fit the lack in our lives. People will prove anything from the word of God to sort out their lack. I don't saw this to you only, but to all who reject the power. I don't expect you to believe me. I don't need your affirmation because the written word of God is not God. The Word is God and He said: 

1 Corinthians 4:20 (KJV)
For the kingdom of God [is] not in word, but in power.  

 

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4 hours ago, Robert William said:

I have met many vain babblers showing off

I have too and I agree. If you study what Paul spoke of, tongues is for the one speaking for themselves, or for the Spirit in private, not in public without interpretation.

 

4 hours ago, Robert William said:

Canon is complete

Who said that? If you knew how the 66 were chosen, you'd retract your statement. In fact, there are 7 books the word of God mentions that are not part of the 66. Furthermore, many wanted to remove the Peters, Hebrew and Revelation. Moreover, some were removed. But none of that matters, because I have the Holy Spirit who teaches me in truth with or without the written, because He's the Author.

1 John 2:27 (KJV)
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.  

So if the gifts are no more, why bother even reading any of the word of God? The word of God is filled with the gifts manifested for His followers. It ceased for those that don't believe. And this is why we have 41,000 declared "Christian" denominations. What better way to hide the truth than amongst stillborns, who have "fire insurance" after speaking "1,2,3, pray after me" and wouldn't recognize the Holy Spirit if a fiery tongue touched them on the head. 

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On 9/11/2017 at 4:19 PM, Robert William said:

Tongues are always a human language.

Always huh? Why not quote all the verses about tongues instead of the first time they happened?

Romans 8:26 (KJV)
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.  

What the sound uttered by them in an earthly language or did they hear the Spirit (who is universal) in their own language? If you don't have ears to hear in English, how will you hear in the language of angels?

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44 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

I've prophesied, and it was fulfilled exactly as the Spirit told me. My wife has been healed. She's written things the Spirit first told to her in 1993 and they're happening today or have happened over the years. I'm sorry you've not been exposed to the Spirit, but He is willing. We're spiritual creatures now, so we're not limited by the physical. I've witnessed things I can only describe as visions from 100's of miles away and called to confirm those I saw. I've been moved by the Spirit to pray for someone, acted on His promptings for people thousands of miles away and knew what was going on. 

The spirit realm is more real than the physical. I've witness the arrival of saints into heaven, I've seen passed family and friends in heaven. The word of God is just a map to the Author who is not bound by words. To make such a statement as what I've quoted you say really shows a lack in your walk with the Lord. Theology is made up to fit the lack in our lives. People will prove anything from the word of God to sort out their lack. I don't saw this to you only, but to all who reject the power. I don't expect you to believe me. I don't need your affirmation because the written word of God is not God. The Word is God and He said: 

1 Corinthians 4:20 (KJV)
For the kingdom of God [is] not in word, but in power.  

 

I do not support your view.

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55 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

Always huh? Why not quote all the verses about tongues instead of the first time they happened?

Romans 8:26 (KJV)
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.  

What the sound uttered by them in an earthly language or did they hear the Spirit (who is universal) in their own language? If you don't have ears to hear in English, how will you hear in the language of angels?

Cannot be uttered, nothing there about languages spoken.

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9 hours ago, Robert William said:

The Canon of 66 books is complete and closed, those gifts are no longer required, tongues nowadays is just vain babbling and showing off!

However, I would like to say that the Holy Spirit with certain Missionaries will translate in the mind of the hearers as He did when Peter spoke at Pentecost. :)

The books may be completed and closed but God has not lost his power.   People are getting saved.  People are being healed.  The Word of God has come alive in the lives of many people.  Are we now picking and choosing what we want to believe God can still do and what God can no longer do?  If you believe you receive if not you get nothing.  

I agree with frienduff that some make up tongues just like some will pretend they are saved.  False tongues and false salvation are not of God.  The devil has his counterfeit but that does not make God's gift less genuine.

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9 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Prophecy ceased with the completion of the Bible.

Question: "What is the spiritual gift of prophecy?"

Answer:
The spiritual gift of prophecy is listed among the gifts of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 12:10 and Romans 12:6. The Greek word translated “prophesying” or “prophecy” in both passages properly means to “speak forth” or declare the divine will, to interpret the purposes of God, or to make known in any way the truth of God which is designed to influence people. Many people misunderstand the gift of prophecy to be the ability to predict the future. While knowing something about the future may sometimes have been an aspect of the gift of prophecy, it was primarily a gift of proclamation (“forth-telling”), not prediction (“fore-telling”).

Also, note the transition from prophet to teacher in 2 Peter 2:1: “There were false prophets among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you” (emphasis added). Peter indicates that the Old Testament age had prophets, whereas the church will have teachers. The spiritual gift of prophecy, in the sense of receiving new revelations from God to be proclaimed to others, ceased with the completion of the Bible. During the time that prophecy was a revelatory gift, it was to be used for the edification, exhortation, and comfort of men (1 Corinthians 14:3). The modern gift of prophecy, which is really more akin to teaching, still declares the truth of God. What has changed is that the truth of God today has already been fully revealed in His Word, while, in the early church, it had not yet been fully revealed.


 

The gift of prophecy is one of the gifts of the Spirit as in 1 Corinthians 12:10.  It is there for edification, exhortation and comfort.  It is false teaching to assume that someone who prophecy should only predict the future.  They can predict the future.  They can predict and they can warn.  If God sees a congregation heading for a split, which the overseer is not aware of, a prophecy can reveal that.  Prophecy nowadays may not all about the big times such as the book of Revelations but even the small things relating to our day to day life.  

In Ephesians 4:11-16, Jesus "gave some apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ"

I think you got your scriptures mixed up, stating in 2 Peter 2:1 that there is a transition from prophet to teacher.  All Peter said was that there were false prophets and false teachers.  

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I do not support your view.

I knew you wouldn't, and it doesn't change the facts either. 

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7 hours ago, Robert William said:

Cannot be uttered, nothing there about languages spoken.

ROTFLOL!! You really don't understand. God bless.

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3 hours ago, Couppy said:

The books may be completed and closed but God has not lost his power.   People are getting saved.  People are being healed.  The Word of God has come alive in the lives of many people.  Are we now picking and choosing what we want to believe God can still do and what God can no longer do?  If you believe you receive if not you get nothing.  

I agree with frienduff that some make up tongues just like some will pretend they are saved.  False tongues and false salvation are not of God.  The devil has his counterfeit but that does not make God's gift less genuine.

Yes, they do pick and choose because they have to. With Paul saying that real members of the Kingdom have power and since they don't have it, they have to bend their theology to explain it away.

I think the saddest thing is that grace is a gift too. 

1 Corinthians 4:20 (KJV)
For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

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