Mental Illness

[Justin Adams]

41 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

This is TRUTH in line with all SCRIPTURE,  revealed from the FATHER in heaven through Jesus and in HIS WORD.

The message of the world, is opposed to TRUTH, and usually for power and for money.

As Jesus says, do not trust shrinks and their trade (I believe it is in the past exposed, and shown to be closer to greed and to idolatry than to serving any good purpose honeslty in line with SCRIPTURE)

Read about this in the online book, PsychoHeresy. It is free and although they might have differing Christian perspectives to some, and not get everything exactly correct, nevertheless it a a good dissertation and a well documented Bibliography. I have quoted some in my topic of the same name. It exposes the depth of this pernicious and anti-Christ system that so many people have adopted as 'truth'.

[simplejeff]

3 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery (pharmakeia), enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:19-21

Contrast that wisdom of mankind - the flesh- carnal and opposed to Truth:

Chapter 16 - The Spirit of Inspiration - - Worthy Christian Library
www.worthychristianlibrary.com › ... › The Holy Spirit or Power from On High Vol 1
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth. “We, therefore, know that these records are divine, that these messages are from the throne, and that this blessed book is the very Word of the living and everlasting God. 2. The Lord Jesus Christ bears witness to ...

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Chapter 10 - A Spirit-Filled Man - - Worthy Christian Library
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One by one various characters appear upon the scene

, representing the wisdom and comfort and friendship of the world — in fact, all that the world can do to help us in our trouble. We have Bildad and Eliphaz and Zophar representing, perhaps, the wisdom, the wealth, and the pleasure of the world, but all failing to bring to ...

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Chapter 28 - What Men Live By - - Worthy Christian Library
www.worthychristianlibrary.com › A.W. Tozer › Man: The Dwelling Place of God
Man's wisdom has ever been the badge of his superiority and the cause of his most arrogant pride; yet it fails him constantly.

He cannot by his wisdom find the answer to the old questions concerning himself: Whence? What? Why? Whither?

By it he cannot secure the blessings he wants most: to escape pain, to stay young ...

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Contrasted again with God's Wisdom:

Matthew 10:19 - Bible Gateway
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew 10%3A19
“But when they do arrest you, never worry about how you are to speak or what you are to say. You will be told at the time what you are to say. For it will not be really you who are speaking but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you. JUB. But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak, for it ...

[simplejeff]

2 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Read about this in the online book, PsychoHeresy. It is free and although they might have differing Christian perspectives to some, and not get everything exactly correct, nevertheless it a a good dissertation and a well documented Bibliography. I have quoted some in my topic of the same name. It exposes the depth of this pernicious and anti-Christ system that so many people have adopted as 'truth'.

Amen and HalleluYAH ! for the GOSPEL OF JESUS including freedom from the world and its garbage !  yes, as Jesus Says in Scripture,

as Yahweh always and clearly says in Scripture....  the depth of the perniciousness of mankind and man's ways.

[simplejeff]

There is an over-abundance of TRUTH from SCRIPTURE in WORTHYCHRISTIANLIBRARY . com >>>

Part 1: Chapter 3 - The Fall of Man - - Worthy Christian Library

www.worthychristianlibrary.com › Watchman Nee › The Spiritual Man Vol.1

Because the fall of man was occasioned by seeking knowledge, God uses the foolishness of the cross to “destroy the wisdom of the wise.” Intellect was the chief cause of the fall; hence, in order to be saved one must believe in the folly of the Word of the cross rather than depend upon his intellect. The tree of knowledge ...

Man: The Dwelling Place of God by A.W. Tozer -

www.worthychristianlibrary.com/man-the-dwelling-place-of-god-by-aw-tozer/

Chapter 11 – There Is No Wisdom in Sin · Chapter 12 – Three Degrees of Religious Knowledge · Chapter 13 – The Sanctification of the Secular · Chapter 14 – God Must Be Loved for Himself · Chapter 15 – True Faith Is Active, Not Passive · Chapter 16 – On Taking Too Much for Granted · Chapter 17 – The Cure for a Fretful ...

Part 3: Chapter 14 - Spiritual Believers and the Soul -

https://www.worthychristianlibrary.com › Watchman Nee › The Spiritual Man Vol.1

If our walk does not exclusively express God's power it shall soon be vanquished by man's wisdom and opinion. Our natural life is a formidable obstacle to spiritual life. Never satisfied with God alone, it invariably adds something extra to God. Hence it is never at peace. Before the self is touched God's children live by very ...

Part 3: Chapter 12 - The Dangers of the Soulish Life -

www.worthychristianlibrary.com › Watchman Nee › The Spiritual Man Vol.1

These verses explain how bitter jealousy springs from the seeking of soulish wisdom. It is through the activity of the devil in the human soul. Christians are aware that the adversary can entice people to sin, but do they equally realize he can inject thoughts into man's mind? The fall of man was due to the love of knowledge ...

[MorningGlory]

1 hour ago, simplejeff said:

This is TRUTH in line with all SCRIPTURE,  revealed from the FATHER in heaven through Jesus and in HIS WORD.

The message of the world, is opposed to TRUTH, and usually for power and for money.

As Jesus says, do not trust shrinks and their trade (I believe it is in the past exposed, and shown to be closer to greed and to idolatry than to serving any good purpose honeslty in line with SCRIPTURE)

Can you quote the passage where Jesus says this? 

[MorningGlory]

33 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Well... there are stories of the priestly orders and the prostitutes in those temples that produced off springs solely for Molech. The yearly cycle of death and sacrifice... Some really weird mind games went on under a different name. Pharmakeia...

 

Please post the stories you're talking about. 

[simplejeff]

"George posted a topic in Worthy Devotions

...Isn't it always interesting how God calls the weak things of this world

to confound the naturalwisdom of the world [1 Cor 1:18-21]?"

 

[simplejeff]

 You may be saying...."Well, I'm not sinful!"

Not true! The Bible says that "all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23), "there is none righteous, no, not one" (Romans 3:10), and that even our "good works are like filthy rags before God." (Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. )

One day, each of us will stand before God and be judged. "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" (Hebrews 9:27) What will He say to you? Will He say,"Well done my good and faithful servant?" (Matthew 25:21).....or will He say "Depart from me, I never knew you." (Matthew 7:23)

Sin entered the world when man sinned at the Garden of Eden.

If you remember, God gave Adam all he could ever want -- a beautiful haven of trees, flowers, fruit and vegetables which grew without hard toil. A river ran through the lovely garden, watering it. God gave Adam all the animals, which were kind to him and one another. He made Adam to rule over this garden and all that was in it. If that wasn't enough, He gave Adam a suitable helper (Eve) with whom to share it.

All this, he freely gave to man for his enjoyment.

There was one tree in that garden, however, which God commanded the two "...you must not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it, you shall surely die." (Genesis 2:17)

 One day, the serpent, which was more crafty than all of the other animals, approached Eve and tempted her to eat of this tree. He lied to her, saying "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:5) When she saw that the fruit was pleasing to the eye and also desirable for gaining wisdom, Eve took of the fruit and also gave some to Adam.

Adam and Eve were banned from the Garden of Eden once and for all...and likewise were each of us banned from God's presence because the sinful nature we inherited from Adam.

 You see, God wants to give us good things, but He gives us a choice.

Will we listen to His voice? Or will we listen to the voice of the one who wants to ban us from God's presence?

 All we need to do is receive the gift of salvation which was given almost 2000 years ago. There is no salvation in any one church or religion but only in Jesus. "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).

the above are all excerpts from older post

By George, January 6, 2004 in Seekers Lounge

[Justin Adams]

3 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Please post the stories you're talking about. 

There is much more if you search for it. I do not wish to put the really nasty and horrifying stuff on this site.
I do not even want to read it again as it makes me feel quite ill.

Here are a few 'gentler' sites to give an idea.

[https://swbts.edu/news/releases/modern-day-molech/]

[https://www.compellingtruth.org/molech.html]

"...It could refer to either human sacrifice or a devotion of children to some sort of service of Molech, perhaps of a sexual sort (cf. Lev 20:2-5; 2 Kgs 23:10, etc.). The inclusion of this prohibition against Molech worshiphere may be due to some sexual connection of this kind, or perhaps simply to the lexical link between זֶרַע (zera’) meaning “seed, semen” in v. 20 but “offspring” in v. 21."

[http://www.gaychristian101.com/Molech.html]

 

[Justin Adams]

30 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Please post the stories you're talking about. 

[http://www.mystery-babylon.org/halloween.html]

There must never be anyone among you who . . . consults ghosts or
  spirits, or calls up the dead.      - Deut. 18:10-12 (The Jerusalem Bible)

Most probably, these practices went back to Babylon; and even beyond! 
To provide some evidence for this: first, we learn that practically every 
ancient civilization had some kind of pagan fire-god (or sun-god) in their 
pantheon of gods. The Romans, for example, called him Vulcan. The 
Greeks named him Kronos. The Phoenicians called him Saturn. But, as we 
research, here, one would conclude these names were only variants of this 
same old Babylonian story of Semiramis (see The Easter Connection). 
These names, although each a little different, were the same titles of the 
same “born-dying-reborn” god of old - Nimrod. We recall that it was the 
Nimrod of Babylon who was (according to Semiramis) martyred, and then 
brought back to life… via the supernatural rays of the sun-god (Baal, 
Molech, etc.). Now, we'll see that Halloween represents the "back-end" 
piece of this same old Babylonian story!

Let’s go back to this ancient story of Semiramis (the one which fooled the 
world). As we recall: Semiramis and her “reborn” son Nimrod (or 
Tammuz) was brought back from the underworld around the time of 
Easter; and celebrated as such. But, as we know, Nimrod’s revitalized life, 
as a baby in our terrestrial world, wouldn't last forever. And, since 
Semiramis and this immaculately-conceived son (new-Nimrod, or Nimrod 
“reborn”) would both have to physically die, someday, the reincarnated 
soul of Nimrod wouldn’t be able to live in his body throughout all eternity! 
The "revived," or reincarnated, baby Nimrod did grow into adulthood 
(probably gloating on what everyone thought he was); but he still would die 
- just like anyone else (and Semiramis understood that). This again would 
have posed a problem to Semiramis' story. If she bore a god, then he, in 
the baby's body, should be able to live in that body throughout eternity - as 
any god should! But, we know her baby was just a normal, baby boy.
So, according to her, she found a way to explain it all: she claimed a true 
god or goddess would still live on, beyond the death of any physical, 
human body that they might occupy. A god was still a god! What really 
mattered was that neo-Nimrod did come back at this time; now able to be 
a god forever (as well as save the rest of the populous from the powers of 
death in their world). All the populous had to do was believe that they 
would be able go through this same cycle of reincarnation, and eventually 
become a god or goddess... if they followed the new, pagan "ways" to the 
divine she laid out. They bought it; hook, line, and sinker!

And, as a way to continue illustrating her points, the way our earth cycles 
its seasons could easily parallel the same “born-dying-reborn” process of 
Nimrod. The people had their "hope and change" right in front of them.

We already know the Easter holiday symbolized the time of Nimrod’s way 
out of the underworld - his rebirth or reincarnation, if you will. Now, at 
the time of Halloween, Nimrod needed to go back into the underworld, at 
least for a little while. So, this perception of his temporary death would be 
celebrated at this holiday.
Then, six-or-so months later, in true cylindrical fashion, Nimrod would be 
celebrated again, as being revitalized - as being a god forever... at the next-
year’s Easter! This same cycle of holidays were supposed to be on ongoing 
“proofs” to Semiramis’ story – to be observed by pagans, again, again, and 
yet again.

Now, in the true spirit of duality, Nimrod was now considered, not only 
the god of life and rebirth, but the god of death and the underworld. So, 
he, and the sun-god who revitalized him (i.e. Baal, Molech, etc.), were 
now subjects of most every pagan sacrifice that had to be had on this day! 
Simple.

Returning to our subject of sacrifice, we now discover that there were a 
few ways to maximize the way a learned pagan would provide sacrifice to 
these gods - through human sacrifices. Human sacrifice seemed to be the 
ultimate, ritual sacrifice, here - allowing the petitioner the maximum 
amount of power gained through it! This practice, believe it or not, even 
seemed to expand to one taking their own children, and slaughtering them 
for the cause!
Yes, as horrible as all of this might sound, it all had a purpose: the 
younger, more “innocent” a human sacrifice seemed to look to the gods, 
the more it seemed to appease them! This would, on the other end, give 
more power to the practitioner doing this horrible thing! Simple; but still 
horrifying.

And, not only for the sake of giving one their power and control, many of 
the ancients actually believed their human/child sacrifices would “purify” 
(spiritually) the individual being sacrificed! Yes, they also thought the 
sacrificed dead would be better off, after - at a better state of existence in 
their afterlife… so why not? They thought things, such as:

“…he who approached the fire would receive a light from divinity” and
  “through divine fire all the stains produced by generations could be
  purged away.”         ("The True Origin of Christmas", n. d., p. 6)[4]

This was the major reason why, in Biblical times, vast numbers of 
children were made to pass through the fire unto Baal or Molech (i.e. the 
sun god).[5]
   And they built the high places of Baal… to cause their sons and their
  daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded
  them not, neither came it into My mind, that they should do this
  abomination…                                           - Jer. 32:35 (KJV)

This, obviously, wasn’t like someone taking their infant to be water-
baptized, today. No - the burnt sacrifice obviously doesn’t come back! 
Yet, there must have been a lot of “feel-good” thoughts on the mind of the 
individual pagan, back then… for them to continue on. Of course, things 
must have been truly twisted, back then; and, to a degree, today, as well.
Interestingly enough, the etymology behind the name of the major pagan 
god - Nimrod (or Tammuz) - even seems to help provide proof for this 
whole concept! The word Tammuz stands for Tam (i.e. “to make perfect”) 
and muz (i.e. “fire”)… to “make perfect by fire.” So, we further discover 
how all of these things are interrelated; and how all of it goes back to 
Babylon.
The conclusion? The pagan sun-god they sacrificed to (Baal, Molech, etc.) 
could easily have been traced back to Babylon. His viceroy, Tammuz, 
could also easily have been traced back to Nimrod - another necessary 
element of this whole process. Semiramis (of Babylon) also was able to 
maintain her power over the ancient, pagan populous by swindling them 
into believing her story of reincarnation, and making them observe the 
changes of the seasons as evidence - even causing them to celebrate them 
as “proof” to it all! So, her son’s death, his burial in the underworld, and 
his divine resurrection (at Easter), as well as his return (during Halloween), 
were brought to the populous with this phony, "copy-cat" story of 
Babylon; and not Christianity. It was an abomination to God:

 …for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done
  unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt
  in the fire to their gods.                                  - Deut. 12:31 (KJV)

These holidays come from something all ancient; and it’s all pagan.
Now, we also can conclude how Halloween probably had the same pagan
roots - just like Easter. But, what more would the Bible have to say about 
this all, if anything? Although the Bible does mentions the practices of 
Halloween, such as human sacrifice, it doesn’t really mention the name 
Halloween directly. As much as Halloween might have elements that 
sound innocent enough to us, today, we know, now, that they're not as 
“innocent” as they sound. Some people of the past did understand this all, 
however; and tried to do something about it:

  In the fourth century, for example, some Christians attempted “to co-opt
  the holiday by celebrating the lives of faithful Christian saints… This
  was a conscious attempt to provide an alternative and re-focus the day
  away from ghouls, goblins, ghosts, witches and other 'haunted' ex-
  periences."   ("Should Christians Celebrate Halloween?", n. d., p. 1-2)[6]

In other words, we see an attempt of some, early on, to have paganism 
and Christianity fused again; or having the Christian elements "blanket" 
the pagan elements over - just like what was done in Easter: Christian outer 
skin... smelly pagan underbelly. Christians would also be able to do, 
somewhat, as their pagan counterparts - to celebrate death, as well… just 
their Christian dead. Yet, how much of this could be diluted or made to 
look “innocent” enough - how many pagan elements do we add on to our 
own Christian commemorations - until it begins to head us right back in the 
same direction as those who followed (and follow) the pagan religion? 
That is the question.