Jude1:3 Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, KiwiChristian said: You said certain church "fathers" thought the book of enoch was Scripture. It is usual to post quotes to , ack yourself up. See, the JW's say in their books that the church "fathers" denied that Jesus is God, but they DONT provide sources or references. Again i ask you, can you show me an official, infallible list of these church "fathers" ? Also, did these people live BEFORE 313AD or afterwards, please? Also, i want to thank you for willing to have a polite and respectful dialog. I appreciate it, my friend. I posted them on page 6 in post number 5. The Church Fathers lived after 31 A.D. The Essenes lived Before 31A.D.(200 B.C.) and were around in Josephus' time A.D. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes List of Church Fathers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Fathers You're welcome. God Bless. We are Iron sharpening Iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted September 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Jude1:3 said: I posted them on page 6 in post number 5. The Church Fathers lived after 31 A.D. The Essenes lived Before 31A.D.(200 B.C.) and were around in Josephus' time A.D. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes So thats BEFORE 313AD? 5 hours ago, Jude1:3 said: List of Church Fathers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Fathers No, i wanted an infallibly-defined list from the RCC. Please, what makes the book of enoch inspired Scripture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted September 21, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 hours ago, KiwiChristian said: So thats BEFORE 313AD? The Essenes were Before and After 31 A.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted September 21, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 hours ago, KiwiChristian said: No, i wanted an infallibly-defined list from the RCC. https://www.catholic.com/qa/who-were-the-church-fathers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted September 21, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.98 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2017 Whosoever defines INFALLIBILITY are themselves, by implication, infallible. No man is thus! ..to err is human, to really screw up requires a computer.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted September 21, 2017 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jude1:3 said: https://www.catholic.com/qa/who-were-the-church-fathers I dont see a list there. Man, how hard is it? Edited September 21, 2017 by KiwiChristian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted September 21, 2017 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted September 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Jude1:3 said: The Essenes were Before and After 31 A.D. why cant you answer a simple question with a yes or no? Seems you guys dont know WHO the "fathers" were. heh. All i want is an official list from the catholic "church" of their church "fathers". Seems a very difficult thing to produce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted September 21, 2017 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted September 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Jude1:3 said: https://www.catholic.com/qa/who-were-the-church-fathers Please, what makes the book of enoch inspired Scripture? Please do not answer this with another question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted September 21, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.98 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2017 List of Church Fathers [http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/8717381] The following is a list of Christian Church Fathers. Catholics generally regard the Patristic period to have closed with the death of John of Damascus, a Doctor of the Church, in 749. However, Eastern Orthodox Christians believe that the Patristic period is ongoing. Therefore, the list is split into two tables. Until John of Damascus After John of Damascus Notes and References See also * Ante-Nicene Fathers * Apostolic Fathers * Cappadocian Fathers * Church Fathers * Desert Fathers * Doctors of the Church * List of early Christian writers * Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers * Patristics * Patrologia Graeca * Patrologia Latina * Patrologia Orientalis * Three Holy Hierarchs External links * [http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06001a.htm Fathers of the Church (Catholic Encyclopedia)] * [http://www.monachos.net/library/Patristics_Master_List Monachos Patristics Master List] * [http://www.geocities.com/trvalentine/orthodox/churchfather.html Who is a Church Father? by Dr. Fr. Michael Azkoul] * [http://newadvent.org/fathers Writings of Church Fathers from NewAdvent] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted September 21, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2017 3 hours ago, KiwiChristian said: why cant you answer a simple question with a yes or no? Because The Essenes lived BEFORE (200 BC) AND AFTER (31 A.D.) So A Yes Or No Answer wouldn't even Answer The Question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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