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In order for September 23rd to “usher in the Second Coming”, you would have to cram into the next 5 days the Rapture of the Church, the rise of Antichrist, the Mark of the Beast and all the other events associated with the first 3.5 years of the time of Jacob’s trouble, otherwise known as the Great Tribulation.

“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.” Revelation 12:1,2 (KJV)

As Bible believers, we understand that God wrote the Bible dispensationally. Paul’s command in 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) to all Christians to “rightly divide” the Scripture is one of the many ways the Holy Spirit verifies this to us. For example, the Scripture quoted at the top of this article takes place in the time of Jacob’s trouble after the Rapture of the Church. Doctrinally, it cannot be applied to the Church at all. It is prophecy of of a yet-future event, this is what we mean by being dispensational and rightly dividing the Bible.

Now that we’ve laid the groundwork, let’s examine the latest false prophecy, made my Bible teachers who are woefully ignorant of Paul’s command to “rightly divide” the Bible. I am talking of course about the upcoming ‘Great Sign’ prophecy which is set to take place on September 23rd, just 5 days from this writing. In these claims we are told that September 23rd will usher in events leading to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. I will show you in this article why that is impossible.

So let us look at the verses in Revelation 12 and see how they fit doctrinally:

  • THE WOMAN REVEALED: Revelation 12 introduces us to a “woman” that Catholics claim is Mary, but is not. This “woman” is the nation of Israel in the time of Jacob’s trouble, and guess what? It was prophesied all the way back in Genesis. Revelation 12 says this – “And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:” What is that a reference to? It is a direct reference to Joseph’s dream in Genesis 37 where he dreamed the following – “And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?” Joseph’s dream was only partially fulfilled when he ruled Egypt, it will have its complete prophetic fulfillment in the time of Jacob’s trouble. Add to that the last words of Jacob to his 12 sons which began with “And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.” in Genesis 49: 1 and you will have perfect harmony.
  • THE WOMAN PERSECUTED: During the time of Jacob’s trouble, Israel will endure tremendous persecution after they wake up and realize that they have been following the Antichrist. She, Israel, will cry out for deliverance. “And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.”
  • SATAN TRIES TO KILL THE WOMAN: “And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.” This is the Devil, in all his unholy glory, as the Leviathan he was in Job 40 and 41, now preparing to “drown the woman” with an actual flood of actual water. Please compare this verse “And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.” with this verse from Job 40 “Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.”
  • THE WOMAN FLEES TO SELAH PETRA: As we have already taught you in our article entitled “The Real Meaning Of The Word Selah As Found In The King James Bible”, Israel will flee to the Red Rock City for Divine protection from Satan. God brings her there supernaturally just as He did miracles for Israel in the desert in Egypt – “And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.” You will notice carefully the length of time the Holy Spirit says the woman will hide there – exactly 3.5 years (for a time, and times, and half a time).

Now, you will notice in all of the references I have just given you, not a single one of them applies in any way, shape or form the the Church. It is all about the “woman”, the nation of Israel. Where is the Church? Why, we have been in Heaven ever since the Rapture which happens in Revelation 4.

“After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.” Revelation 4:1,2 (KJV)

In order for September 23rd to “usher in the Second Coming”, you would have to cram into the next 5 days the Rapture of the Church, the rise of Antichrist, the Mark of the Beast and all the other events associated with the first 3.5 years of the time of Jacob’s trouble, otherwise known as the Great Tribulation.

Chances of all that happening in the next 5 days, the next 50 days or even the next 500 days? Absolute zero.

But now that you’ve just learned something your church never shows you, Bible doctrine, let me tell you what you should be ready for on September 23rd. You should be ready in the next 5 days for the Rapture of the Church to take place, for it can happen any day from today. It could even happen today.

If you are not saved, then you will miss the Rapture and be left behind to deal with Antichrist. If you are saved, and haven’t told anybody about salvation in Jesus Christ, then you will get Heaven but lose rewards the at the Judgment Seat.

On September 23rd, 2017, approximately 250,000 people will die and leave this Earth, and you could be one of them. A quarter million people die everyday. Live each day as if it was your last day on Earth, because one day it will be.

“only ONE life, ’twill soon be past…and ONLY what’s done for CHRIST will last”.

Are YOU ready for what comes next?

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/false-prophecy-alert-called-great-sign-thats-occurring-september-23rd-100-not-true/

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12 minutes ago, Sojourner414 said:

*The following is set to the tune of "Yakety Sax*

So, for all that to happen in such a short span of time: the rapture hits, then the first horseman (while watching the rapture) dawdles a little too long, runs into the second horseman and falls off (war), who knocks the third (famine) horseman into Death, tripping him and hell off their horse. While the first horseman (the AC) is getting back up (Hey! It's the "rise of the AC!), he bumps into the woman of Rev 12, knocks the moon out from under her by accident, which runs over the dragon who's trying to send a flood after her. Water goes everywhere, soaking the Mark of the Beast, and while the AC and the horsemen are trying to dry it out, the woman flees to Petra!

(yes, the previous is satire based on all of this happening in a few days instead of over the real span given in Scripture)

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In all seriousness, excellent breakdown of this supposed event, Shiloh357! :thumbsup:

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1The word of the Lord came to me: 
2“Son of man, speak to your people and say to them: ‘When I bring the sword against a land, and the people of the land choose one of their men and make him their watchman, 
3and he sees the sword coming against the land and blows the trumpet to warn the people, 
4then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not heed the warning and the sword comes and takes their life, their blood will be on their own head. 
5Since they heard the sound of the trumpet but did not heed the warning, their blood will be on their own head. If they had heeded the warning, they would have saved themselves. 
6But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes someone’s life, that person’s life will be taken because of their sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for their blood.’

(1.) The Four Blood Moons Picture - http://yowusa.com/space/2014/space-2014-02a/blood-moon2.jpg
(2.) 8/21/17 & 4/8/24 Total Solar Eclipse Picture - http://eclipse.siu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2017-2024.jpg
(3.) Rev 12:1-2 Picture - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XXxVwpcXV0U/maxresdefault.jpg
(4.) Rev 12:1-5 Picture - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oRCx47PPo4E/hqdefault.jpg
(5.) Planet X Picture - http://godinanutshell.com/2017/01/17/red-dragon/

1 week = 7 years 2017-2024 - Dan 9:27 And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”

History
(1.) The four blood moons of 2014-2015 were warning signs pointing to 9/23/17 Joel 2:31
(2.) 9/23/17 is not a warning sign, rather it will be the action 1 Thess 5:3
(3.) 1897, 1917, 1947, 1967, 2017 are all important Israel dates and Jubilee's 1897 + 120 = 2017 Gen 6:3
(4.) Fig Tree Generation - 1947 + 70 years = 2017 Psa 90:10, Matt 24:32-35
(5.) Rev 12:1-5 only occurs once in Stellarium in 7,000 years, on 9/23/17

The Word Rapture
(6.) The Feast of Trumpets represents rapture, the appointed time (Gen 1:14 moed/seasons) (Lev 23:2 moed/festivals) 
(7.) The word harpazo/rapture is a part of the Rev 12:1-5 sign, in Rev 12:5
(8.) The Latin translation for rapture is rapturo, in Greek it's harpazo
(9.) In Dan 12:11, we are the sacrifice taken away that kicks off the 1290 days (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Rom 8:17, Rom 12:1, Rom 15:16, 1 Cor 15:31, 2 Cor 1:5, Gal 2:20, Phil 2:17, Phil 3:10, Col 1:24
(10.) Rapture before tribulation is here Gen 19:21-22, Lev 12:1-8, Psa 18:2, Psa 27:5, Isa 26:17-21, Isa 66:7-8, John 14:1-4, Luke 21:34-36, 1 Thess 5:9-10, (Jude 1:14, Rev 19:14 saints coming back to earth), Rev 3:10, Rev 4:4, Rev 5:5, Rev 12:1-5

The Heavens
(11.) Virgo gives birth to Jupiter in September of 2017
(12.) Virgo is Israel (our mother) Isa 50:1, Jer 3:8, (Micah 5:2 Ephrathah/an Israelite woman), Gal 4:26, and Jupiter is the body of Christ (the child) Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14-17, Gal 3:26, Col 1:18, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5
(13.) The sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations are for signs, times, days, years, seasons Gen 1:14, Job 38:31-32, Psa 19:1-6, Psa 104:19, Psa 136:7, Isa 40:26, Luke 21:25-28
(14.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign is also connected to Planet X in Rev 12:3-4, (Rev chapter 12&13/red dragon and mark of the beast), Enuma Elish by L. W. King or by Doug Elwell

The Head / Body
(15.) John uses the words "huios" and "teknon" in Rev 12:5, head and body Col 1:18
(16.) The head (Jesus Christ) was birthed 2,000 years ago when He ascended to heaven Acts 1:1-11
(17.) The body (the church) however was conceived 2,000 years ago at Pentecost, not birthed Acts 2:1-4
(18.) Life begins at conception, not birth Psa 139:13-16, Jer 1:4-5, Matt 1:20, Acts 2:1-4 (Roe v. Wade)
(19.) The body (the church) has been in gestation for 2,000 years up until now (Isa 53:11 amal/trouble, Rev 7:14 thlipsis/trouble), Luke 22:39-46, (Acts 2:24 ódin/agony of death/childbirth), Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:22-23, 2 Cor 5:1-5, Phil 3:20-21
(20.) Each time a person gets saved, they get put into the body of Christ John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 6:1-5, Rom 8:38-39, 1 Cor 15:12-19, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2.
(21.) The birth of the body into incorruptible seed is next, through rapture event Rom 6:1-5, 1 Cor 9:25, 1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:17, 1 Pet 1:4, 1 Pet 1:23, Rev 12:5
(22.) John uses "teknon" (the church) once in Rev 12:4 and once in Rev 12:5
(23.) The body of Christ is raptured before the dragon devours us, (the moment he was born) Rev 12:4-5

2017 - 2024 Time Line
(24.) The first four feasts have already been fulfilled 2,000 years ago
(25.) The last three feasts are still future, and the Feast of Trumpets is next on 9/21/17
(26.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign lands two days after the Feast of Trumpets (Feast starts 1290 days in Dan 12:11)
(27.) The abomination of desolation then lands on Passover Sabbath on 4/2/21 Dan 9:27, Dan 11:31, Dan 12:11, Matt 24:15
(28.) The second coming of Christ then lands on the Day of Atonement on 9/13/24 Isa 24:23, Isa 37:32, Eze 16:63, Joe 2:32, Oba 1:17, Oba 1:21, Mic 4:7, Zech 14:4
(29.) The 1000 year reign with Christ then begins 75 days later on 11/26/24 (24th day/9th month on Hebrew Calendar) Hagg 2:10, 18, 20

Conclusion
(30.) Rapture, the Day of the Lord and the 70th week of Daniel all point to a woman in labor Isa 13:6-8, Isa 26:17-21, Isa 66:7-9, Jer 30:6-7, Jer 49:24, (Micah 5:2-4 / Verse 2 Time of Jesus / Verse 3 Church Age / Verse 4 Millennium), 1 Thess 5:1-3
(31.) The Rev 12:1-5 sign also points to rapture, the Day of the Lord and the 70th week of Daniel (Rev 12:1-5 woman in labor giving birth)
(32.) John breaks the rules of Greek grammar, birth before tribulation (rapture before 70th week) Isa 66:7-8, Rev 12:5
(33.) The body of Christ will rule and reign with Christ himself with an iron scepter, as kings and priests Psa 2:9, Dan 7:18, 22, Matt 19:28, Rom 8:17, 1 Cor 6:2-3, Rev 1:5-6, Rev 2:26-27, Rev 3:21, Rev 4:4, Rev 5:10-11, Rev 7:9, Rev 12:5, Rev 20:4-6, Rev 22:5

Side Note: 1 Jubilee = 50 years
(1.) From Adam to Noah (Flood) 40 x 50 or 40 Jubilee cycles = 2000 years  (Seed)
(2.) Abraham to Christ (Cross) 40 x 50 or 40 Jubilee cycles = 2000 years (Young Plant)
(3.) Christ to now 40 x 50 or 40 Jubilee cycles = 2000 years (Harvest)
(4.) 40 x 3 = 120 Jubilees -- 2000 x 3 = 6000 years -- Gen 6:3

Side Note: Jesus commands the believer to wake up Prov 8:34-36, Matt 24:42-44, Luke 21:34-36, Rom 13:11, 1 Thess 5:1-11, 1 Pet 4:17, Rev 3:1-3
Side Note: The church sitting on thrones, (surrounding God's throne), with authority to judge, as kings and priests Dan 7:18, 22, Matt 19:28, Rom 8:17, 1 Cor 6:2-3, Rev 1:5-6, Rev 2:26-27, Rev 3:21, Rev 4:4, Rev 5:10-11, Rev 7:9, Rev 12:5, Rev 20:4-6, Rev 22:5
Side Note: The twenty-four elders (the church/martyrs) playing harps in heaven Psa 33:2, Rev 5:8, Rev 14:2-3, Rev 15:2
Side Note: The church has many names and is also considered male Isa 66:7-9, Matt 13:38, Luke 20:36, John 12:36, Rom 8:14, Gal 3:26, 1 Thess 5:5, Rev 12:5
Side Note: 9/28/15 Super Blood Moon to 9/23/17 Rev 12:1-2 sign is 726 days, and Strong's 726 is.. http://biblehub.com/greek/726.htm

1  A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.   
2  She (Israel) was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.   
3  Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon (Satan) with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads.   
4  Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon (Satan) stood in front of the woman (Israel) who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child (teknon the church) the moment he was born.   
5  She gave birth to a son (huios Jesus Christ himself), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child (teknon the church) was snatched up (harpazo) to God and to his throne.

Salvation scriptures can be found in John 3:3-7, John 3:16, John 14:6, Acts 4:12, Rom 6:23, Rom 10:9-10. - Heb 13:8

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http://www.unsealed.org/2017/08/conservative-scholars-agree-male-child.html

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7 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

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Anyone can string a bunch of verses together like lights on a Christmas tree and make the Bible appear to say anything they want.

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9 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Anyone can string a bunch of verses together like lights on a Christmas tree and make the Bible appear to say anything they want.

Right, but it's the head and body study that you seem to be confused on. Read that part.

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3 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Right, but it's the head and body study that you seem to be confused on. Read that part.

I am not confused about it at all.  The woman gives birth only one time. 

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19 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

I am not confused about it at all.  The woman gives birth only one time. 

That's right, and the birth in Rev 12:5 is for the body, since it's been in gestation for 2,000 years.

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Just now, Heb 13:8 said:

That's right, and the birth in Rev 12:5 is for the body, since it's been in gestation for 2,000 years.

No, that is not true.  The Church was came into existence on Pentecost and Israel was not the mother of the Church.   The Church has no mother.    The Church is Jesus' building, not Israel's child.  

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3 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

No, that is not true.  The Church was came into existence on Pentecost and Israel was not the mother of the Church.   The Church has no mother.    The Church is Jesus' building, not Israel's child.  

Right! came into existence, that is conception! Israel is our mother shiloh. Read Isa 50:1, Jer 3:8, (Micah 5:2 Ephrathah/an Israelite woman). Where do you think the church came from? Is Jesus Jewish?

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Isa 26:20 Go, my people, enter your rooms (cheder) and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by.

cheder: a chamber, room
Original Word: חֶ֫דֶר
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: cheder
Phonetic Spelling: (kheh'-der)
Short Definition: bedroom

http://www.bridalcovenant.com/wedding1.html

John 14:2 My Father's house has many rooms (moné); if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?

moné: an abiding, an abode
Original Word: μονή, ῆς, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: moné
Phonetic Spelling: (mon-ay')
Short Definition: lodging, dwelling-place, room
Definition: lodging, dwelling-place, room, abode, mansion.

Isa 26:18 We were with child, we writhed in labor, but we gave birth to wind (ruach). We have not brought salvation to the earth, and the people of the world have not come to life.

John 3:8 The wind (pneuma) blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit (pneuma)."

ruach: breath, wind, spirit
Original Word: ר֫וּחַ
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: ruach
Phonetic Spelling: (roo'-akh)
Short Definition: spirit

pneuma: wind, spirit
Original Word: πνεῦμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: pneuma
Phonetic Spelling: (pnyoo'-mah)
Short Definition: wind, breath, spirit
Definition: wind, breath, spirit.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&q=ruach+holy+spirit&oq=ruach+holy&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0j0i22i30k1l3.888.4720.0.6135.9.8.0.0.0.0.139.827.4j4.8.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.8.824.0..0i20k1j0i10k1.iM4_5z_oURU

- Heb 13:8

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