mat007 Posted September 19, 2017 Group: Junior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 45 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 124 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 95 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 19, 2017 Hi. I was diagnosed with OCD and especially two types of OCD: Scrupulosity and HOCD and the second is so intense that I just can't get the thoughts out of my mind. People on the forums for OCD recommended Yoga to me. Question: Is it evil? I've heard some people saying that Yoga can bring demonic influence to people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_man1974 Posted September 19, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 25 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 726 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 575 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/22/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1974 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I think doing yoga is fine and helpful. Just not the meditation aspects that some people bring into it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post missmuffet Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2017 Question: "What is the Christian view of yoga?" Answer: For many Christians in the West who don't understand the history behind it, yoga is simply a means of physical exercise and strengthening and improving flexibility of the muscles. However, the philosophy behind yoga is much more than physically improving oneself. It is an ancient practice derived from India, believed to be the path to spiritual growth and enlightenment. The word yoga means "union," and the goal is to unite one's transitory (temporary) self with the infinite Brahman, the Hindu concept of "God." This god is not a literal being, but is an impersonal spiritual substance that is one with nature and the cosmos. This view is called "pantheism," the belief that everything is God and that reality consists only of the universe and nature. Because everything is God, the yoga philosophy makes no distinction between man and God. Hatha yoga is the aspect of yoga that focuses on the physical body through special postures, breathing exercises, and concentration or meditation. It is a means to prepare the body for the spiritual exercises, with fewer obstacles, in order to achieve enlightenment. The practice of yoga is based on the belief that man and God are one. It is little more than self-worship disguised as high-level spirituality. The question becomes, is it possible for a Christian to isolate the physical aspects of yoga as simply a method of exercise, without incorporating the spirituality or philosophy behind it? Yoga originated with a blatantly anti-Christian philosophy, and that philosophy has not changed. It teaches one to focus on oneself instead of on the one true God. It encourages its participants to seek the answers to life's difficult questions within their own consciousness instead of in the Word of God. It also leaves one open to deception from God's enemy, who searches for victims whom he can turn away from God (1 Peter 5:8). Whatever we do should be done for God's glory (1 Corinthians 10:31), and we would be wise to heed the words of the apostle Paul: "Fix your thoughts on what is true and honorable and right. Think about things that are pure and lovely and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise" (Philippians 4:8, NLT). A Christian should exercise caution and pray for discernment regarding involvement in yoga. https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-yoga.html 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Horse Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 364 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2017 16 hours ago, mat007 said: Hi. I was diagnosed with OCD and especially two types of OCD: Scrupulosity and HOCD and the second is so intense that I just can't get the thoughts out of my mind. People on the forums for OCD recommended Yoga to me. Question: Is it evil? I've heard some people saying that Yoga can bring demonic influence to people. OCD does not exist it's made up term , you might not be saved to begin with that's why you feel not secure i was like that too . No pills or doctors are going to help you but Christ himself. Doctors don't even know which pills make you not commit suicide and which do when they prescribe random you ones and they try to not make you kill yourself with these pills but make you feel relaxed . You could just simply drink one beer and feel the same but in long run these things won't help you at all . Yoga is evil. How to make sure you have Holy Spirit inside of you? 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: If you believe that Jesus Christ is God , who came down to earth living perfect live and then died for your sins on cross , with his own blood(1 Peter 18-19) paid price for you to be able to not suffer eternity in Hell and then rose third day from dead proving that he is God then you will be saved . 350+ fullfilled prophecy by Jesus Christ can be found here so you can believe in real Jesus and not some new age demons . http://www.accordingtothescriptures.org/prophecy/353prophecies.html If you believe then you are sealed with Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14) and it's free gift not by what you do , not by prayer not by charity and not by going to church ( Ephesians 2:8-9) . You do all these things after you are saved . Then you can cry to God in prayer that he will help you fighting with these things that are bothering you , put faith in him and all will be ok , if you want to have peace go now and pray Our Father . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnOrangeCat Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 57 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,403 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 1,824 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2009 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2017 I think missmuffet's post pretty much has the right of it. The yoga that we see in the west is dumbed down to varying degrees, but still you'll often run into traces of the philosophy behind it and find some new agey ideas thrown in. I'm going to expand a little on something Cletus said. Kundalini means "serpent", and in the context of yoga it's regarded as a spiritual force. People practicing that sort of yoga have reported some very negative physical and mental side effects, which should really all add up to be a major red flag. Finally the Bible does tell us to avoid even the appearance of evil (1 Thessalonians 5:22). So even if you do feel that you can separate the physical aspects of yoga from the philosophical and spiritual aspects that tag along, you should still consider the message that the practice sends to others both inside and outside of the church. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_man1974 Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 25 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 726 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 575 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/22/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1974 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, Giller said: Do not practice yoga, and do not open yourself up to this type of meditation, you want peace of mind seek it from the Lord. You want to do exercise, just do regular exercise. Agreed. Partially. I think we can get into symantics here. What if the exercise/stretching you are doing, happens to be one that is called yoga in the class down the street. My point is I guess if you are intentionally going into looking for some higher spiritual association or whatever then that is wrong. But if you are looking for ways to release stress and loosen up your body, I think the stretching really helps. Edited September 20, 2017 by da_man1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_man1974 Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 25 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 726 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 575 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/22/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1974 Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Davida said: That is the point that it is- spiritual association whether the person is ignorant to it or seeking it, does not matter, and I cannot stress that enough. I experienced this first hand. In the spiritual dimension there is no excuses for the naïve or ignorant- if you by accident step into something or dabble by mistake-you will regret it and you will pay the consequences. Yoga is Not just "stretching" it is what Yogis do. Yoga is the training to do positions which are called asanas that are performed to open up energy channels (demonic spirit channels) & to invoke specific hindu deities (demons). In order to train the body to get into these positions they teach a process of stretching & breathing exercises. Ignorance to it will offer you no protection. It is the same in the physical realm. If you dive into shark infested waters- you will be shark food. So how do you feel about acupuncture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_man1974 Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 25 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 726 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 575 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/22/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/30/1974 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Davida said: The same. Stay away from it. It matters what the sources of these things are- not how that some western medical professionals endorse them. I guess the think I struggle with is the fact that you could do a yoga position and not even know it. Like playing with a little kid on the floor and then before you know you are in the downward dog position. Then you are doubly wrong because you may cause that younger one to stumble. Or if my hip flexor hurts so I decide to stretch it by bringing my leg up like whatever that yoga tree position thing is to stretch it out. I just think we may be getting a little legalistic about things. Edited September 20, 2017 by da_man1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravindran Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 496 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 398 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2017 As someone who comes from India, I completely agree with the summary from gotquestions. My suggestion would be to stay away from yoga. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Amazing Horse said: OCD does not exist it's made up term , you might not be saved to begin with that's why you feel not secure i was like that too . No pills or doctors are going to help you but Christ himself. Doctors don't even know which pills make you not commit suicide and which do when they prescribe random you ones and they try to not make you kill yourself with these pills but make you feel relaxed . You could just simply drink one beer and feel the same but in long run these things won't help you at all . Yoga is evil. How to make sure you have Holy Spirit inside of you? 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: If you believe that Jesus Christ is God , who came down to earth living perfect live and then died for your sins on cross , with his own blood(1 Peter 18-19) paid price for you to be able to not suffer eternity in Hell and then rose third day from dead proving that he is God then you will be saved . 350+ fullfilled prophecy by Jesus Christ can be found here so you can believe in real Jesus and not some new age demons . http://www.accordingtothescriptures.org/prophecy/353prophecies.html If you believe then you are sealed with Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14) and it's free gift not by what you do , not by prayer not by charity and not by going to church ( Ephesians 2:8-9) . You do all these things after you are saved . Then you can cry to God in prayer that he will help you fighting with these things that are bothering you , put faith in him and all will be ok , if you want to have peace go now and pray Our Father . OH NO!!!! OCD does exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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