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Allah the Moon god of Arabia. Why is the moon the symbol of Islam?

Bible Reading: Deuteronomy 4:15-19.

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ISLAM IS BAAL WORSHIP * Islam is Antichrist * They reject Jesus is the son of God (MrTrott2hot)

Introduction: The Quran (29:46) commands Muslims to tell Christians “say (to them): We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our ilah (God) and your Ilah (God) is One (ie. Allah), and to Him we have submitted.” This is an attempt to convert Christians to Islam.

Question: Is Allah, the god of Islam, the same as Jehovah, the God of Abraham and the Bible prophets?

Question: Why is Allah never defined in the Quran? Why did Mohammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was? If Allah was a pre-Islamic idol in the Kaba, then we reject Islam as pagan.

Question: Why did the pagan Arabs never accuse Mohammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped? This was Allah the moon god according to archaeological evidence.

1. Nabonidus (555-539BC), the last king of Babylon, built Tayma in Arabia as a centre of moon worship.

2. The moon-god’s name “Sin” is part of the Arabic word ‘Sinai’ & the ‘wilderness of Sin’ (Ex.16:1;17:1)

3. G. Caton Thompson (1944) uncovered a moon-god temple in Hureidha, South Arabia, with the moon god idol itself, 21 inscriptions of “Sin” & crescent moon symbols. ‘Tombs & Moon Temple of Hureidha’.

4. According to many inscriptions, while the name of the moon-god was “Sin”, his title was “Al-Ilah” (the god or the chief god among the gods). As Carlton S. Coon points out “The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the moon-god.” (C.S.Coon, Southern Arabia, Smithsonian, 1944, p.398,399). The moon-god was called “al-ilah” (the god), which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times.

5. Pagan Arabs named their children after the idol “Allah”. Moh father & cousin were called ‘Abd-Allah’. His uncle was called Obied-Allah. Mohammad was raised in the moon-god religion of Allah. Pagan Arabs believed Allah was the greatest of all gods. Mohammad added that Allah was the only god. He did not take away the Allah that they already worshipped. He only took away Allah’s 3 daughters and the other idols in the Kabah. Mohammad told the pagan Arabs that he still believed in their moon-god Allah. He told Jews & Christians that Allah was their god also. Jews and Christians rejected his false god Allah.

6. Al-Kindi, an early Christian debater of Muslims, stated that Islam and Allah did not come from the Bible, but from the pagan Sabeans. They did not worship Jehovah, the God of the Bible, but the moon-god Allah and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat. (The Early Christian-Muslim debates, N.A.Newman, p.357,413,426). Newman concludes, “Islam …sprung up from idolatry.” (p 719).

7. Caesar Farah, Islamic scholar, concludes, “There is no reason to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and the Jews.” (C Farah, Islam: Beliefs and Observations, 1987, p.28). Question: Where is Allah in the Bible? Nowhere! Where is Allah in pre-Islamic Arabia? Everywhere. What authority do pagan pre-Islamic Arabs have to tell us about the God of the Bible? None!

8. Why is the crescent moon the symbol of Islam? Why is a crescent moon on top of Sunni mosques, minarets and on Islamic flags? Why does Ramadan begin and end with the appearance of the crescent moon? Because Islam originates from pre-Islamic worship of Allah the moon-god.

9. Why do Muslims see no problem with borrowing their god from pagan idol worshippers? Bias!

10. Why did the Quran discuss Allah’s three daughters, each being idols in the Kaba? Allah is pagan. “Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-Uzza (2 idols of the pagan Arabs) and Manat (another idol of the pagan Arabs)?” (Q 53:19,20). Allah the moon god married the sun goddess, who had 3 daughters.
Al-Uzza was one of the three chief goddesses of Arabian religion in pre-Islamic times and was worshiped as one of the daughters of Allah by the pre-Islamic Arabs along with Al-lat and Manat. The temple dedicated to al-Uzza and the statue itself was destroyed by Khalid ibn al Walid in Nakhla.

11. The Quraysh would walk around the Ka‘bah and say, “By al-Lat and al-Uzza, And al-Manat, the third idol besides. Verily they are al-gharaniq (most exalted females) Whose intercession is to be sought.” Their shrines were found near Mecca: Al-Lat at Taif, al-Uzza at Nakhlah and al-Manat near Qudayd.

12. Many rituals performed by Muslims today existed in pagan worship in Arabia before Islam. The yearly pagan pilgrimage to the Kabah included the Ramadan fast, running around the Kabah seven times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down two hills, throwing stones at the devil, praying five times a day toward Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers (10). 13. All over the ancient world, the crescent moon is found on seals, steles, pottery, clay tablets, amulets, cylinders, weights,earrings, necklaces,wall murals. In Ur, the Stela of Nammu has a moon as the top god.

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Please note that the arabic word for God is also used by fellow Christians.

 

The arabic word for God .. [or a transliteration of it] .. is used by Christians in several different languages .. and is also used in Bibles in different languages.

 

For example - When Christians in Indonesia or malaysian Borneo use that term in a Christian context.... they are basically using it similar to how english speaking Christians use the english word 'God'.

 

Just a small note.  Thanks.

 

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But they do not refer  to the same entity

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12 hours ago, just_abc said:

 

Please note that the arabic word for God is also used by fellow Christians.

 

The arabic word for God .. [or a transliteration of it] .. is used by Christians in several different languages .. and is also used in Bibles in different languages.

 

For example - When Christians in Indonesia or malaysian Borneo use that term in a Christian context.... they are basically using it similar to how english speaking Christians use the english word 'God'.

 

Just a small note.  Thanks.

 

 

7 hours ago, other one said:

But they do not refer  to the same entity

Yes, just like the concept 'pray to God/Allah'...the object of our prayers are totally two different beings.

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15 hours ago, other one said:

But they do not refer  to the same entity

 

The Christian meaning /  understanding of who the Creator is .. is very different than non-Christian understanding / meaning ..

However my point was only about the language used ..  i.e. that the same word... or at least a word spelt the same way..  is used .. by both Christians and non-Christians.

For example - the english word 'God' is used by both Christians and non-Christians including cults such as mormonism.  This does NOT mean that the Christian understanding/ meaning of the word 'God' is the same as that of cults such as mormonism....  However if the english language is being used.. then both english-speaking Christians and english-speaking mormons might both use a word that is spelt in the same way.... but with very different understandings / meaning of the word....

However - a hypothetical example - if  Christians in a far away country decided to try to discredit mormonism by discrediting the english word 'God'....  then they would not only be affecting mormons..  but they would also affect their own fellow Christians who also use the english language word ....  

They could even potentially end up unintentionally or inadvertantly 'discrediting' not only their fellow Christians but possibly also even most reputable Bibles in the english language....

I don't think such an action is helpful.

 

Sorry no offence intended to anyone- truly.  Just wanted to explain.  Thanks. 

 

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In words of the Prophet Elijah, it really is coming down to this, "Then Elijah stood in front of them and said, "How much longer will you waver, hobbling between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow him! But if Baal is God, then follow him!" But the people were completely silent." (1 Kings 18:21). Elijah knew the LORD is God, but the Israelites were trying to serve both God and Baal, which raises what Christ who is the LORD God (Romans 10:9) says in Revelation, "So, because you are lukewarm [χιλιαρος, χιλιαρα, χιλιαρον (χλίω, to become warm, liquefy, melt), tepid, lukewarm: metaphorically, of the condition of a soul wretchedly fluctuating between a torpor/indolence and a fervor of love, Revelation 3:16. (Herodotus, Pindar, Diodorus, Plutarch, Athen., Geoponica.], and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth." (Revelation 3:18). 

Emmanuel and Elijah words become even more relevant with advent of Chrislam

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6 hours ago, just_abc said:

 

The Christian meaning /  understanding of who the Creator is .. is very different than non-Christian understanding / meaning ..

However my point was only about the language used ..  i.e. that the same word... or at least a word spelt the same way..  is used .. by both Christians and non-Christians.

For example - the english word 'God' is used by both Christians and non-Christians including cults such as mormonism.  This does NOT mean that the Christian understanding/ meaning of the word 'God' is the same as that of cults such as mormonism....  However if the english language is being used.. then both english-speaking Christians and english-speaking mormons might both use a word that is spelt in the same way.... but with very different understandings / meaning of the word....

However - a hypothetical example - if  Christians in a far away country decided to try to discredit mormonism by discrediting the english word 'God'....  then they would not only be affecting mormons..  but they would also affect their own fellow Christians who also use the english language word ....  

They could even potentially end up unintentionally or inadvertantly 'discrediting' not only their fellow Christians but possibly also even most reputable Bibles in the english language....

I don't think such an action is helpful.

 

Sorry no offence intended to anyone- truly.  Just wanted to explain.  Thanks. 

 

It does make a difference when some think that the God of Christanity and the Allah of Islam are the same entity andvChristiand have perverted their own knowledge.  And even knowingly lie about it to further their world denomination efforts.  So I would disagree that we should not discredit the mis use of the word "God/god".   We mis use it even forming doctrine in different churches. To me it is important for it causes a lot of confusion in different kinds of discussions for not everyone has the same thought when they hear or see the word written.

 

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1 hour ago, other one said:

So I would disagree that we should not discredit the mis use of the word "God/god".   

Hi Brother

In my hypothetical example - I was refering to the normal use of the word 'God' by Christians being discredited.  For example in Bibles such as the KJV or Niv etc.  

If non-english speaking Christians in a foreign country decided to try to use the possible history or origins of the english word 'God' to try and discredit that word - this is something that would affect Christians too.. Because english-speaking Christians also use that word.  

Thanks. 

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My personal view is that we as Christians are misusing the word and tying a definition to it that untimately isn't understood by most people. When we are asked about it most try to explain the trinity and that conversation usually ends up that we as humans can't understand.

From my point of view we have already done what you suggest.   And it is important that both Islam  and Christianity keep Allah and what we call God separate.

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I'd be more focused on the name Jesus Christ, this is the One and Only name that saves.

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

 

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